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UK:Muslim second wives may get a tax break
TIMESONLINE ^ | 12/26/04 | NICHOLAS HELLEN

Posted on 12/26/2004 8:03:30 AM PST by Pikamax

Muslim second wives may get a tax break NICHOLAS HELLEN, SOCIAL AFFAIRS EDITOR

THE Inland Revenue is considering recognising polygamy for some religious groups for tax purposes. Officials have agreed to examine “family friendly” representations from Muslims who take up to four wives under sharia, the laws derived from the Koran. Existing rules allow only one wife for inheritance tax purposes. The Revenue has been asked to relax this so that a husband’s estate can be divided tax-free between several wives.

The move is bound to create controversy if it leads to a change in the rules. It is seen as a breakthrough by Muslim leaders who have been campaigning to incorporate sharia into British domestic law.

Ahmad Thomson, of the Association of Muslim Lawyers, said: “Wives and immediate children should be exempt from inheritance tax. If the government is family friendly they should change a tax which is unfairly hitting minority religious values.”

Any concession by the Revenue could open a wider debate about the legality of plural marriages. At present a person married to more than one people can be charged with bigamy.

Muslim marriages to second, third and fourth wives are not valid in civil law, with the women effectively regarded as mistresses with no legal or tax rights.

However, some official bodies have already pointed out that tax laws are unfavourable to religious groups that recognise more than one spouse.

The National Audit Office

(NAO) recently concluded that the tax system inadvertently penalised devout Muslims. An NAO inquiry into inheritance laws found that devout Muslims were not able to take full advantage of British tax law, which allows spouses to inherit an entire estate from their husband or wife tax free.

By contrast, for the many Muslim families who observe sharia, the woman receives only an eighth share of her husband’s estate tax free. The rest of the estate above the British inheritance tax threshold of £265,000, is taxed by the Inland Revenue at 40%.

Sadiq Khan, a leading Muslim politician, said: “I am pleased to see the Inland Revenue applying common sense to the application of Islamic law on uncontroversial matters such as inheritance.

“There are some other uncontroversial areas of Islam law which could easily be applied to the legal system we have in the UK.”

He insisted there was no question of pressing for the introduction of sharia’s criminal code “where people are flogged or have their hands chopped off”. He said: “This is not the thin edge of the wedge.”

The NAO also points out that Jews who follow the traditional code of halakah are similarly penalised because it requires estates to be passed through the male line.

The change in position by the Revenue emerged in correspondence from its capital taxes technical group sent to Haroon Rashid, an expert in inheritance tax planning at the law firm, BK Soliciors.

John W Murray, an official, wrote on November 29 in reply to a question on how to calculate tax on a will under Islamic law: “It is a question of Islamic law whether or not this is the case. If there is any authority that you could direct us to then we would gladly consider it.”

A Treasury spokesman said: “We keep all areas of the tax system under review, and we are willing to consider all representations put to us on how to ensure the tax system operates in a fair, simple and consistent way.”

Gordon Brown, the chancellor, has already made one significant concession to adapt to the dictates of sharia. In the 2003 Finance Act he spared Muslims from paying stamp duty twice on their properties when they took out “Islamic mortgages” that complied with the sharia ban on paying interest.

The Islamic mortgages involve the lender buying the house — ownership is transferred to the purchaser only at the end of the repayment period.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 21stcenturycrusades; doublestandard; england; homosexualagenda; islam; marriagelaws; mulsims; muslimwomen; polygamy; religionofpeace; samesexmarriage; sharialaw; trop; uk; ukmuslims
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1 posted on 12/26/2004 8:03:30 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

England is becoming a joke.


2 posted on 12/26/2004 8:18:01 AM PST by NetValue (Please call me a "values voter"....please.)
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To: Pikamax

Can I have one them thar......Islamic mortgages??


3 posted on 12/26/2004 8:18:07 AM PST by international american
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To: international american
Hell let's go for the whole boat...become a Muslim....get 4 or 5 wives....put 'em all to work....keep the cash and when you're ready to croak split their $$ with 'em.
4 posted on 12/26/2004 8:20:44 AM PST by JimVT (I was born a Democrat..but then I grew up)
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To: Pikamax
Say it ain't so Chas!


5 posted on 12/26/2004 8:21:16 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Pikamax

If this were to take place in the US, would anyone here consider it a direct violation of the 1st Amendment? Even though this is not specifically establishing a religion, it is favoring one over others for tax incentives.


6 posted on 12/26/2004 8:21:33 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: Pikamax

The Bush administration put paid to gay marriage when the IRS made it plain that it did not recognize it for tax purposes. In the UK case, their Inland Revenu is about to defacto recognize it with their death duty exemption for 2nd wives. Of course non-muslims will be demanding it as well and islamists will soon be demanding other sharia-based indulgences. We've just seen the beginning of a slow-moving capitulation. You may be sure the EU Commission on Human Rights is being petitioned to that effect even as we speak.

Furthermore, a year of two from now the EU, having legalized polygamy for their masses will be trying to strongarm us to do likewise.


7 posted on 12/26/2004 8:23:43 AM PST by sinanju
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To: JimVT

Great idea! We need to make sure they each hold MBA's so we can live well. Nice sheltie, by the way.


9 posted on 12/26/2004 8:42:50 AM PST by international american
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To: Pikamax

Polygamy is against the law here. Wonder if special privileges are planned for the 'religion of peace' followers.


10 posted on 12/26/2004 8:44:22 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: Pikamax
It's just an "alternative family structure."

Can a woman get a tax break for another husband? Can non-Muslim Brits get a tax break too?

Do you ever get this cold, sinking feeling that we are very, very alone in the world right now?

11 posted on 12/26/2004 9:24:54 AM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: Pikamax

4 wives to one?

Looks like they plan to breed us out of our nations. Of course, some of their offspring are merely for bomb carrying purposes.


12 posted on 12/26/2004 9:53:02 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: international american

Nope, they are free to discriminate against giving you an interest free loan.


13 posted on 12/26/2004 9:53:55 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Pikamax

Good to see England respecting muslims' "alternative" legal structure. < /sarcasm >

When can we expect to see the first tolerance for muslim bringing their slaves to England? Slaves captured in jihad and made to perform sexual services for their masters?


14 posted on 12/26/2004 9:55:24 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Mogollon
The religion of peace uses violence to persuade other societies to "treat them nice" and "give them a wide berth". You can even be on the receiving end of a fatwa for speaking out against Islam.
15 posted on 12/26/2004 9:57:04 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Sharia Law is an unconstitutional imposition of religious law. There are 3 classes of people of it. Muslims, Jews-Christians (lesser than muslims under law but still "people of the book", and "everybody else" (infidels).

Western society has been devoid of these constructs for hundreds of years.

The left, who stand firmly opposed to religion, have a godless love affair with Islam for some unGodly reason. They do so at great peril to us all.


16 posted on 12/26/2004 10:00:15 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Pikamax
"SOCIAL AFFAIRS EDITOR"- Is that like "Minister of Propaganda and National "Enlightenment""? Oh, Forgive Me...The latter is neo-fascist while the U.K. subscribes to a more enlightened form of "Nationalsozialism".

One more thing what should make anyone cringe is why would a free society need or want for that matter someone "Editing" social behavior?
17 posted on 12/26/2004 10:03:35 AM PST by coffee260 (coffee)
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"SOCIAL AFFAIRS EDITOR"- Is that like "Minister of Propaganda and National "Enlightenment""? Oh, Forgive Me...The latter is neo-fascist while the U.K. subscribes to a more enlightened form of "Nationalsozialism".

One more thing what should make anyone cringe is why would a free society need or want for that matter someone "Editing" social behavior?
18 posted on 12/26/2004 10:03:47 AM PST by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: dennisw

Multiplying wives brings wickedness on people. Look at what happened to Solomon.


19 posted on 12/26/2004 10:10:44 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: NetValue

They're 90% there, already.


20 posted on 12/26/2004 10:35:17 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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