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Eichel -U.S. will one day realise pain of weak dlr [sic - direction?]
Reuters ^ | Sat Dec 25, 2004

Posted on 12/26/2004 5:13:15 AM PST by demlosers

BERLIN, Dec 25 (Reuters) - German Finance Minister Hans Eichel was quoted on Saturday saying the U.S. government would one day realise that the rapid rise of the euro is also endangering the U.S. economy -- and then be ready to act.

In an interview with Hessicher Rundfunk radio, Eichel said "and then America will also be ready to take actions" once the U.S. government realises the euro's appreciation is hurting their own economy as well as others.

Eichel added in the interview to be broadcast later on Saturday that he expects the U.S. government to take energetic steps against its high budget deficits that are a main cause of the euro's rise against the dollar.

Government leaders in Germany and throughout the euro zone have complained the dollar's weakness against the euro threatens to slow growth in the 12-nation region where recovery is already losing steam.

The dollar has fallen more than 10 percent versus the euro in recent months with markets convinced its slide is an inevitable result of record U.S. budget and trade deficits, and that the U.S. government and exporters are not unhappy about it.

U.S. officials have shown no appetite for central bank intervention that some Europeans have called for to halt the euro's rise.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: currency; dollar; euro; trade; weakdollar
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An Eurocrat who thinks the weak dollar is hurting the U.S. economy. What say you?
1 posted on 12/26/2004 5:13:15 AM PST by demlosers
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To: demlosers
It just hit with me after seeing the bigger fonts...

Title "dlr" = Dollar

Duh LoL!

2 posted on 12/26/2004 5:15:35 AM PST by demlosers
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To: demlosers
How about that?

Advice from a heavily socialist, top weighted economy currently saddled with high unemployment, lackluster prospects, and anemic growth is always valued...
3 posted on 12/26/2004 5:22:49 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: demlosers

Well, i am frequently at odds with our beloved
Finanzminister Hans Eichel, but this time ...

Q:People who cannot travel because their currency doesnt
buy anything outside their own country?

A:Citizens of the United States of America, who would have guessed.

I am confident that said citizens wont let that happen
in the long run.


4 posted on 12/26/2004 6:01:25 AM PST by fbrueggemann (They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither... B.F.)
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To: fbrueggemann
People who cannot travel because their currency doesnt buy anything outside their own country?

The US needs to fix both its budget and its current account deficit, but rationales which would make an impact with Germans (foreign travel being your national sport) won't worry too many Americans.
5 posted on 12/26/2004 6:11:01 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: fbrueggemann

Why would an American want to travel to Europe? Any reasonably sized amusement park can give you a taste of Europe without the danger or insults.


6 posted on 12/26/2004 6:12:08 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: fbrueggemann
See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308576/posts for the other side of the "problem": Europeans coming here!
7 posted on 12/26/2004 6:14:53 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: demlosers

I would suggest that Herr Eichel could make better use of his time by complaining to China that the price of the Yen does not reflect reality and must be allowed to float on its own.


8 posted on 12/26/2004 6:18:29 AM PST by gaspar
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To: gaspar

It might be better to complain to the Japanese rather than the Chinese. Japan has the Yen, the Chinese have the Yuan. The US has the distinction of being a so-called capitalist nation with no capital. Floating the Chinese Yuan would be the worst possible solution as the dollar would go into free fall against the Yuan or Yen. With the billions of reserve dollars both countries hold in US dollars, there would be an instant collapse to our currency.


9 posted on 12/26/2004 6:33:17 AM PST by meenie
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To: fbrueggemann
Well, i am frequently at odds with our beloved Finanzminister Hans Eichel, but this time ... Q:People who cannot travel because their currency doesnt buy anything outside their own country? A:Citizens of the United States of America, who would have guessed. I am confident that said citizens wont let that happen in the long run.

Q: What is worse than having people who cannot afford prices in a foreign country?

A: Having people who cannot afford prices in their own countries.

I don't know it is in Germany but I have heard it directly from a Spaniard and a Dutch that the over-valued European markets have not only made Europe too expensive for Americans and the rest of the World, it has also made Europe too expensive for the Europeans themselves.

We went to Spain last summer and a Spanish friend was telling me that prices in Spain sky-rocketed when the Euro replaced the Peseta. She called the Euro an "engaño".......a hoodwinking.........perpetrated upon Spain by European Union politicians.

The high cost of living in Spain since the Euro replaced the Peseta is also affecting the number of children that young Spanish married couples believe they can afford.

Last week, I met a visiting woman from the Netherlands. I asked her opinion about the Euro, told her about my conversation with the Spaniard and asked what the effect of the Euro was in the Netherlands.

She replied that it had the same effect that I had described for Spain. She said that, before the Euro, the dollar was worth about 2 Dutch Guilders. However, once the Euro took over, everything that was previously priced at 1 Guilder in the Netherlands was then priced at 1 Euro. As a result, the cost of living in the Netherlands doubled.

She said it is now so bad that the Dutch tend to stay home rather than even go a restaurant or to a pub as they are now so expensive.

Oil prices are still pegged to the dollar. The prices of goods outside of Europe are still priced in relation to the U.S. market.

The European over-valuation of their currency and their economy is a European economic bubble that is seriously impactting European society but has very little effect on us.

Next summer, we will still travel outside the U.S. We just won't be travelling to Europe.

10 posted on 12/26/2004 6:40:25 AM PST by Polybius
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To: demlosers
Note how we are responsible for the Euro. If they do not like it they can just have the ECB lower rates. It is not " the twin deficits that is causing the problem, BTW, that is just nonsense. It is such an absurd argument to apply to a short term, localized problem like the current Dollar/Euro rates. It would take years for any real effect. to show up in the markets - it is absurd to have this clown say this. It is for internal consumption. Unfortunately many Europeans will believe thos BS (many Americans too.)

Most of these sort of currency positions have nothing to do with long term developments - they are speculations based on rates and short to midterm shorts in currency policy.

It is an example, however, of how ignorant we have all become of basic economics - and how short our memories are.

11 posted on 12/26/2004 6:41:59 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: demlosers

This Eurocrat is worrying about Germany's economic woes, not the U.S..


12 posted on 12/26/2004 6:42:06 AM PST by hershey
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To: meenie
Nonsense, floating the yuan would not collapse the dollar at all. What an odd thing to say. THe dollar will be back with partiy witht the EUro by mid summer. Floating the yuan - and losing japanese central Bank support for a weak Yen is just the ticket. How can a nation with a 1 trillion dollar economy hold all of the capital for an 11 trillion dollar economy? Don't be absurd. You are quite overreacting here. We have plenty of capital. They buy that government debt for their own reasons. The yuan has to come up, it is extremely undervalued (on purpose.) A free floating Yan would be a real boon to the American economy
13 posted on 12/26/2004 6:49:39 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: CasearianDaoist

Agree ebtireley, ecept, the low dollar may be around for another year. I do not believe that the decline of the dollar was at all unintentional. We have not propped it up like we used to.
It is also a payback to socialist "Old Europe" for being openly anti-american for quite some time and , by the way has nothing to do with Iraq.(Oh well, maybe a little)

Our Government is going to let the Europeans suffer through more Bankruptcies and hard times. Then the real payback begins. After losing some of the marketshare, we will again support the dollar , and that will hit them with unprecedented inflation and stagnation.


14 posted on 12/26/2004 6:57:41 AM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: SubMareener

Concur. Europe wouldn't be to bad if it weren't so overrun with Europeans!


15 posted on 12/26/2004 6:57:47 AM PST by Conservative Infidel
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To: Polybius
She called the Euro an "engaño".......a hoodwinking.........perpetrated upon Spain by European Union politicians.

My German friends are saying the same thing......

16 posted on 12/26/2004 7:05:25 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: Right Wing Professor
One of the beauties of living in America is you can travel to many, many beautiful places without leaving the territory of the United States.

I agree. I think America has many of the most beautiful scenery and exciting places to visit on earth.
Sedona Arizona, the Florida Keys, the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Monument Valley, the California coastal highway, South Beach FL, Vegas, New York City...just to name a few.

I can never seem get enough of traveling America.

17 posted on 12/26/2004 7:15:11 AM PST by Jorge
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To: fbrueggemann
That doesn't hurt our economy. I just got back from WDWorld and there were tons of foreigners vacationing their. If Americans stay at home due to the value of the dollar and foreigners come here due to the value of the euro, I think that is a win/win.
18 posted on 12/26/2004 7:22:36 AM PST by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: americanbychoice2
Well, I think that it is not really all that intentional, it is just gravy (not that their is anything wrong with that.) Really, the Fed is doing just what it said it would after 911: it walk the dollar down by 25 basis points a quarter and they will walk it back up the same way. THis minister must know that, that is why I say it is all theater. If he actually believes this he is a fool.

I do doubt, however, that they will go all the way back up to the 6.5 it was at under Clinton. The dollar was way overvalues under Clinton - it needed to come down a bit.

It would be extremely irresponsible walk rates up any faster, and to suggest it is and extremely dumb thing for this minister to even suggest. It shows one just how incompetent the current German government truly is.

The dollar will be fine. I expect that there will be a series of small Yaun "unpeggings' this year, not enough to really balance out world trade, but it will be some help. I suspect that a lot of the money that is going into the Euro is doing so because they do not know the timing of this un pegging: Will the Yen go first or will it be the Yuan? That sort of thing. The Euro is a good place to park money in the short term (another quarter.) I think that there was also some OPEC euro switch going on (and perhaps Russia too.) I also think that some people had some real weird positions on the dollar earlier this year and that is still affecting the dollar. When you hear this "twin deficits" crap out of the big players on Wall St. you know that they must have some sort of position in For-Ex trades that they are trying to shape in the market (and perhaps a dig by wall Street liberal at Bush, as well.) Otherwise, it would be a really stupid statement to make as we have had deficits for 30 some years.

There are only two way to deal with these deficits. On one hand, protectionis, and on the other hand tax, regulatory and entitlement reforms, along with some tough tactics on trade.

I agree though that it does put the EU in its place. Lots of people (including many on FR) run around thinking that the two economies are peers. They are not. The Euros just do not want to admit it. If Bush can actually push through his reforms (a big if, I grant you) then the EU will actually be in worst shape.

The fact of the matter is that we need to invest more and consume less, and the rest of the world needs to consume more and save less. Globalism will only work if all major economies have large internal markets and every one has access to each other markets.

19 posted on 12/26/2004 7:23:21 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: CasearianDaoist
The effect the deficits have is speeded up by speculations. If the current account deficit of the USA is too big, people start betting against the dollar and it falls.
For the dollar to stay stable you need $2 billion a day of new investments in dollar. I know the currency market is pretty big, but i seriously doubt that this has no influence at all. Eichel is right. if the dollar continues to fall it will be bad for the whole world economy, not just for us evil socialist Europeans.
20 posted on 12/26/2004 7:46:20 AM PST by wu_trax
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