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State Sees Instant Results in Electronic Gun Checks
NY Times ^ | December 25, 2004 | FOX BUTTERFIELD

Posted on 12/24/2004 11:19:51 PM PST by neverdem

WOBURN, Mass., Dec. 24 - When Massachusetts this month became the first state to install an electronic instant-check system complete with a fingerprint scanner for gun licenses and gun purchases, the impact was quickly apparent.

On Wednesday, for example, moments after a court placed a woman's husband under a restraining order, a notice about the order popped up on a new computer terminal at the police station here. Given that information, the Woburn police went to the man's house and confiscated his guns, all 13 of them.

The computer is part of the record-check system and allows the police and gun stores to learn right away if a person can legally own or buy a firearm. The system provides instant updates on arrest warrants, restraining orders and convictions, and it links fingerprint scanners and computers at gun stores and police departments with a central database.

Under Massachusetts law, anyone wanting to buy a gun must first obtain a license from the local police department. Now, when a person applies for the license or goes to buy a gun, his fingerprints can be checked electronically to verify his identity.

"This is a quantum leap in improving public safety and also making it quicker for people to buy a firearm," said Edward A. Flynn, the Massachusetts secretary of public safety. The new computer system was developed by the state's Criminal History Systems Board, part of Mr. Flynn's office.

Philip Mahoney, the police chief in Woburn, a city of 38,000 people just north of Boston, said the new system was particularly valuable because "we get notified in real time about any new restraining orders, warrants and arrests."

Under the old system, based on paper records maintained at individual police stations and gun shops, Mr. Mahoney said, "we might not be notified at all if someone was put under a restraining order."

In the case this week, Mr. Mahoney said: "We were able to go to the individual's house immediately after the restraining order was issued, which is the most dangerous time for a batterer. It's a time when the victim is probably moving out, and the risk of violence is highest."

The new Massachusetts electronic system is in addition to the federal requirement that a gun buyer undergo an instant background check. That check is completed by telephone before the gun is sold, with a clerk in the gun store calling the F.B.I. or a state police agency.

Many of the same records are searched in both checks, but the national instant background check is not as up to date as the new Massachusetts system, particularly for restraining orders, and does not require fingerprint verification.

Mr. Flynn said his office was working with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to try to consolidate the two checks in Massachusetts.

So far there has been no outcry against the new system from gun owners or the state's gun stores.

"Basically, it's all the same information we had to submit before, so this is not more intrusive," said Carl Ingrao, the owner of Four Seasons Firearms in Woburn. His business is the largest gun store in Massachusetts and was used in a pilot project testing the system beginning last June.

"I haven't had any negative comments from customers whatsoever, and I've sold over 2,000 firearms since the system went into effect," Mr. Ingrao said.

"The computer is actually quicker, more efficient and less expensive for the dealer," he said, because under the old paper system each form cost 50 cents, not including the postage for mailing a copy to the Criminal History Systems Board. Mr. Ingrao says he believes the new system will save him about $2,000 a year.

The electronic system is also faster because once a purchaser's identity is confirmed by the fingerprint scan, the computer automatically fills in the buyer's address, date of birth, height, weight and hair and eye color. That data comes from the gun license application.

"A few months ago, they had to take the system down for a day for a software upgrade, and we had to go back to filling out all the old paperwork," Mr. Ingrao said. "My clerks were saying, 'Hey, the computer is better.' "

Gun owners and the gun industry have often complained that background checks are onerous because they take too much time and prevent people from just walking in and buying a gun when they want to. Mr. Flynn said the new system was an effort to answer that criticism by speeding the process.

By law, police departments in Massachusetts have had 45 days to issue a firearms license. But with the instant check system, the police should be able to issue the license in 24 to 48 hours, Mr. Flynn said, and then a customer with a license will be able to buy a gun in a few minutes.

So far, computer terminals linked to the system have been installed in 159 of the state's 351 police departments and at the four largest gun dealers. The goal is to have them installed in all departments and gun stores by next June, Mr. Flynn said.

A customer at Four Seasons Firearms who collects handguns said he had no objection to the electronic system "because I have nothing to hide."

The customer, who declined to be identified, echoing the concerns of many gun owners about their privacy, added: "The law-abiding gun owners are always put on the defensive when some nut shoots someone. The media makes us out to be the bad guys, but we are just following the law."


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To: NYTexan
Under most circumstances a person has to to have reasonable cause for a restraining order

That's a complete pile of B$. Restraining orders are tactical maneuvers used by almost EVERY woman wanting a divorce

121 posted on 12/27/2004 10:48:23 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Jack Black
If you haven't read Boston T. Party's "Molon Labe" you should. Ditto for Ross's "Unintended Consequences" and Travis's (writing under his real name) excellent "Enemies Foreign and Domestic"

I've read all three, and highly recommend them.


122 posted on 12/27/2004 4:17:30 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
Put another way, let's say a Police Chief, Mayor, Governor, etc., wanted to finally, absolutely, rid themselves of all those pesky 2nd Ammendment advocates. They take a writ to friendly Left-wing judge, request a "restraining order" claiming some threat against the government official by each and every gun owner. Then these gun owners have two options, i.e. turn in their guns voluntarily, or have them confiscated, and possibly, be prosecuted for illegal gun ownership (i.e. due to the restraining order).

What's needed, perhaps, is for the judiciary in some conservative pro-RKBA state to find that Daley, Feinstein, Boxer, et al. have by their actions threatened material harm to other people and issue an order against them.

The linguistic twisting necessary to justify that would be no worse than what people use to justify the Lautenberg Abomonation.

123 posted on 12/27/2004 8:04:34 PM PST by supercat (To call the Constitution a 'living document' is to call a moth-infested overcoat a 'living garment'.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

If he admitted that anywhere where his statement was recorded, you have an equal protection case. In fact, you probably have one anyway.


124 posted on 12/27/2004 9:38:16 PM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: rdcorso

If the woman lies in a sworn statement, she's left herself open to prosecution. Whether or not it can be proven, and whether or not the local excuse for a prosecutor will be willing to go after her, are different questions. The fact remains that she is a criminal.

Moreover, all she has to do is slip up once and yammer to her mother or her girlfriend about how she lied to get the restraining order, and if it becomes known, it can become grounds for filing a complaint; they can be supoenaed, and forced to either testify against her or lie under oath.

The problem is that the MEN are unwilling to go after these women. Typically, they're afraid of jeopardizing the child-custody or visitation rights case they know will follow. So the women continue to get away with it. The excuse "it won't work", or "the woman always wins", or etc. etc. is more often than not just masking the man's unwillingness to really bring the legal heavy artillery to bear on his wife.


125 posted on 12/27/2004 9:46:19 PM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: ChefKeith

Yep, time to start putting pressure on Congress to fix this. In fact it is time to pressure them into defending the Constitution/BOR, to pass laws that are pro-gun and to get rid of the anti-gun laws.


126 posted on 12/28/2004 7:43:15 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: MikeinIraq
Hell hath no fury, has a man condemn without a court or by a jury of his peers. This will be the begining of the end of this country. And it will only get worse. The question that demand and answer is who or what will be the last straw to bring down this country the Islamic raghead or one of or own. Only time will tell.
127 posted on 12/29/2004 11:44:12 AM PST by Warlord David
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