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Gregoire ekes out 130 vote win
Associated Press Wire | 23 Dec 04 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/23/2004 3:54:17 PM PST by fidelio

Edited on 12/23/2004 4:15:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

SEATTLE (AP) - Democrat Christine Gregoire has won the Washington governor's race by 130 votes over Republican Dino Rossi, according to final recount results from King County.

King County was the last county to report in the statewide hand recount, the third count of ballots in the governor's election. The election results have not been certified and probably will be challenged in court.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: communist; demoratsstink; dinorossi; fraud; kingco; kingcountystench; recount; seattle; theft; ukraine; votefraud; washington
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To: Ethyl

Are you hitting on me?


181 posted on 12/23/2004 11:40:32 PM PST by Zee2
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To: Zee2

Have you been to soundpolitics.com? The man is a statistical genius. And there are lots of dem trolls there, the blogger does not ban them unless they really seriously annoy him. I've only seen him do it once.

This election is as criminal as I have ever heard of. I am a life long King County resident, and I truly am convinced that none of my votes have ever counted. I believe that they have been having "homeless people" vote a dozen times each. I believe that they have dead people vote. I've seen the name of a 104 yr old man who apparently voted yes on a school levy. In person. I know that a man up north has seen people vote for his 4 grown out of state children. (They mysteriously remain on the books, year after year despite numerous requests to pull them)

Zee2, I don't know what you are trying to pull here, but after they gave that Christine Rossi vote to Gregoire, it was all OVER. They are admitting to foul play. Because they can. This is their show, and they will run it as they please. Just ask them. Or, I could ask you, now couldn't I? And, btw, if libs weren't inherently evil, I think we'd be o.k. with them here.


182 posted on 12/23/2004 11:57:58 PM PST by Julie(LCR) (democrats thrive when good people sit back and do nothing)
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To: Zee2

Ok, I did the statistical analysis myself using chi-squared analysis.
Sounds like this:
We'll use all the counties except King County as the control.
The rate of vote change was 33 / 3,777,058 or 0.000873%
So, the same expected rate of change for King Co (1,694,463) would be 14
But the observed number was 424.
We want to know whether this reflects a real change, or whether its just coincidence. Statistical calculations cannot of course answer this definitively, but we can answer a related one: If the rate of change remained at 0.00873%, what is the probabilty of 424 votes changing out of 1,694,463 votes?
Here's the answer:
P value and statistical significance:
Chi squared equals 12007.242 with 1 degrees of freedom.
The two-tailed P value is less than 0.0001
By conventional criteria, this difference is considered to be extremely statistically significant.

So there it is. Based purely on the numbers of the rate of vote change, I doo not believe that one can assume random variation in the way the votes were changed.
If it was not random, then by definition it must be guided or biased change.
I therefor have no scientific confidence in the recount totals.

See ya,


183 posted on 12/24/2004 12:12:26 AM PST by swingdoc
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To: fidelio

Surprise, surprise, surprise!
184 posted on 12/24/2004 12:57:40 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: fidelio

THIS WILL NOT STAND!


185 posted on 12/24/2004 12:58:08 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Zee2

How nice of so many little RAT THIEF COMMUNISTS to join us at FR today...TROLL.


186 posted on 12/24/2004 12:59:58 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Zee2

You're of the same spirit as those who loaded the trains bound for the gulag.


187 posted on 12/24/2004 1:12:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: brewcrew

And the least accurate counting method of them all is a hand count...

I'd bet good money that a second hand count would yield a significantly different result relative to the first and the variation would be greater than the amount necessary to swing the election either way.


188 posted on 12/24/2004 2:04:32 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: RoseofTexas

What do you mean get off our a**es? We've worked our a**es off! Did you notice they re-counted King county last so they would know how many votes they needed to manufacture? There is no way to wrench power from these people. They have their own judges. We would need a ruling from the Supreme Court of the United States to fix this and I don't see it happening!


189 posted on 12/24/2004 5:54:18 AM PST by YOKUM (They will lie, cheat and steal! And, they did!)
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To: fidelio

The democrats stole it.

Washington gets what it deserves.


190 posted on 12/24/2004 6:29:53 AM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: DB

It's even worse when punch card ballots are hand counted. Chads keep falling out, changing the vote. This election shows exactly why touch screen electronic balloting is so superior and why the DemonRats so strongly oppose it.


191 posted on 12/24/2004 6:57:15 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper
touchscreens are so easy to hack...anybody who knows anything about computers knows..that touchscreens are just asking to be hacked..especially when they people who make them make no attempt to make them secure...and this is not what only what democrats says..this is what people from MIT and Caltech say. And no democrats are not for punch-card ballots..democrats hate punch-card ballots..democrats are for optical scan ballots.
192 posted on 12/24/2004 7:42:53 AM PST by Zee2
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To: libstripper
touchscreens are so easy to hack...anybody who knows anything about computers knows..that touchscreens are just asking to be hacked..especially when they people who make them make no attempt to make them secure...and this is not what only what democrats says..this is what people from MIT and Caltech say. And no democrats are not for punch-card ballots..democrats hate punch-card ballots..democrats are for optical scan ballots.
193 posted on 12/24/2004 7:43:54 AM PST by Zee2
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To: Zee2

How many cases are ther in the United Startes where they have been hacked?


195 posted on 12/24/2004 8:02:17 AM PST by libstripper
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To: ukie

The problem with the so-called "paper trail" is that piles of paper ballots, of whatever sort, have a mysterious way of being "discovered" after close elections, nearly always come from Democrat-controlled precincts, and always seem to benefit Democrats. Knox County, Tennessee, where I live, has used the touch screen machines for about the last 15 years with no challenges from anybody. They eliminate all the ambiguity associated with the witchcraft of determining voters' "true intent."


196 posted on 12/24/2004 8:08:53 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Boazo

Good G-d...


197 posted on 12/24/2004 8:34:34 AM PST by Reactionary
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To: Zee2
Oh yeah and the Washington State Democrats argued in court that EVERY county not only King County should be able to go double check that they did not discard votes incorrectly by mistake.

Try to keep up. The other counties in Washington had already certified their vote totals. King County was the only that hadn't. Very convenient. That opened to the door to "finding new votes" and inventing a new vote counting standard (not "double-checking") that other counties couldn't apply.

It doesn't matter what the Democrats said in court. It never does - only what they do.

198 posted on 12/24/2004 8:38:18 AM PST by Libertarian444
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To: Polybius

200 posted on 12/24/2004 9:58:53 AM PST by itsahoot (There are some things more painful than the truth, but I can't think of them.)
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