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Millions of Plants Caught in Dragnet for Oak Killer
NY Times ^ | December 23, 2004 | BRADFORD McKEE

Posted on 12/23/2004 12:18:41 PM PST by neverdem

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Keith Parker
VICTIMS An oak forest in Marin County, Calif., where a plant pathogen has struck.

Top, Garbelotto Lab; bottom, Steve Tjosvold
SYMPTOMS Sudden oak death syndrome, spotted in 22 states, is signaled by sappy bark lesions, top, and by leaf rot.

More about Phytophthora ramorum

1 posted on 12/23/2004 12:18:44 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
"There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees..."
2 posted on 12/23/2004 12:20:15 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: neverdem

--this sounds like it could be worse than the chestnut blight of about sixty years ago or Dutch Elm disease which started forty or so years ago--


3 posted on 12/23/2004 12:31:42 PM PST by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: Wolfie
"..the maples want more sunlight...and the oaks ignore their pleas.."

: )

4 posted on 12/23/2004 12:41:30 PM PST by Fedupwithit (Democrats are just whistling past the graveyard...soon enough they will be occupants)
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To: neverdem

If some Indian 'guru' or Haitian voodooist or Native American spiritist wanted to have a ceremony to protect these trees, there would be adulation and mutual worship of Mother Earth. If somebody like Jerry Falwell were to offer to come to the blighted area to pray to God for the trees, the media and Greens would attack him for being a publicity hound and being a simpleton for being superstitious.

I say, if the Oaks are being killed mysteriously, it's time to call in Miss Maple to solve the case...if she has a prayer....


5 posted on 12/23/2004 12:50:13 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (REMEMBER THE ALGOREAMO--relentlessly hammer on the TRUTH, like the Dems demand recounts)
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To: farmfriend


6 posted on 12/23/2004 1:05:57 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: neverdem
The disease can linger for months and does not always cause death. It is not known to affect all oak species.

This may be a key.

Isolate the gene/s responsible for the resistance and incorporate them into susceptible species.

In the mean time, get ready to cut and split a great deal of firewood.

7 posted on 12/23/2004 1:19:20 PM PST by Freebird Forever (MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!)
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FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


8 posted on 12/23/2004 1:23:37 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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The restrictions, expected to be issued in early January, will affect millions of plants grown in California, Oregon and Washington, about one-third of the country's nursery plant supply. They will require inspection, sampling and possibly testing of all plants that could be hosts to the pathogen, Phytophthora ramorum, the cause of sudden oak death syndrome, before shipment across state lines. The disease has been spotted in 22 states.

Meanwhile, virtually NOTHING is done about plants imported from overseas.

You will note in the top photo: That is a riparian corridor with surrounding firs on the left and madrone on the right (the left side probably faces north or east). The dead trees are Lithocarpus densiflorus (tanoak). Oaks don't do well down in a wet shady gully like that, particularly shaded for part of the day by taller trees. They are as much victims of fire suppression and succession having allowed massive overstocking. That raised the average humidity, increased the duration of fog, reduced aeration, and increased accumulated and acidic litter (which would kill those trees eventually anyway when Armillaria gets into the cambium breaks caused by girdling roots due to the litter). Higher average humidity and shorter hours of sunlight greatly aid the disease in infecting a tree (tanoak is particularly susceptible because of its thinner bark than most oaks).

These species were selected over the last few thousand years having become accustomed to regular fire. Regular fires would have prevented the conifers from being so dense and shading that zone. Regular fires would have consumed the litter and provided those trees nutrition. There is no way that a stand now in that stocking density could survive a fire.

This disease started in Marin and Santa Cruz Counties, two of the most heavily regulated and overgrown counties in the whole state. I live in Santa Cruz County. Unlike my nieghbors, I have done the hard work of thinning my forests. In the seven years since Phytophthora ramorum was identified, I have lost ONE tree. The trees in that photo are more victims of how that land was managed than they are of the disease (which was likely imported from Europe with rhododendrons, btw).

Phytophthora ramorum produces spores. That means it is spread by birds. There is NO WAY any regulatory body is going to stop it now. All this action accomplishes is to kill a legitimate (although badly run) horticultural industry that we need for re-establishing native plants. The only way they could have prevented the disease was to take action on screening imports (particularly from Mexico), which is the one thing they don't do. So if that doesn't seem likely, ask yourself why.

9 posted on 12/23/2004 1:25:10 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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--you obviously are an authority on this. As it is species-specific, can we then assume that it won't wipe the continent clean of oaks, such as almost happened with Dutch elms?


10 posted on 12/23/2004 1:41:13 PM PST by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: neverdem; farmfriend

BTTT


11 posted on 12/23/2004 2:03:19 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: rellimpank
I am no authority; I only know about the behavior of this pathogen in my area.

Phytophthora ramorum is not species specific. You will note in the bottom of neverdem's photos are leaves from a California Bay Laurel tree. P. ramorum is not fatal to bay trees but they are a host. It is not fatal to redwood or fir either, which show little to no symptoms at all. It is fatal to virtually all species of oak trees and many shrubs but to varying degrees.

Now that it's here, all we can do now is to make certain the land is as healthy as it can be so that its individual constituents might survive. AFIK, there is no way to truly prevent the spread of this pathogen, although we might delay it for a few years. There is a treatment out there, but it is prohibitively expensive for all but the most valuable of ornamental trees. While the original predictions for how the scope of this infestation were very dark (some were saying we would lose 70% of all oaks in California), I have seen no indication that the reality is so threatening.

That doesn't mean I'm not royally pi$$ed that this pathogen was allowed into the country. If we hadn't learned our lesson after Dutch Elm disease we should this time simply because the next one could be worse. To allow foreign goods into the country without a rigorous means to protect native habitat from imported pathogens is to massively subsidize imported goods. The sellers and buyers don't pay for that risk; the landowner assumes the entire risk of the eventual consequences. Thus the risk of infestation is an economic externality of the importation transaction. When those consequences hit, the damned government agencies land upon those who are suffering the consequences (not that the horticultural industry is blameless, they did after import those rhododendrons). Thus, as far as I am concerned, the free ride that imports get is a result of corruption in government.

There are ways to manage such affairs without the heavy (and dirty) hand of regulatory government. Perhaps when I've raised a little capital (and when my patent for one such system finally gets a first office action) I'll get going on that.

12 posted on 12/23/2004 2:30:06 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: neverdem; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Stories on an obscure regulatory ruling in the LAT and NYT the same day.

Naah, there's no coincidence to that.

13 posted on 12/23/2004 3:55:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Related and very different take on this here:

CA: USDA Acts to End Fight Over Plant Disease ( View from California on national problem )

14 posted on 12/23/2004 4:01:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Freebird Forever

They're still trying to do that with chesnuts and it's been how long since the blight eliminated them from forests? Unless they can get the new pest quarantined, you can kiss most of the oaks goodby. The effect of the loss of the mast crop isn't being considered but it will obviously affect everything from wild turkeys to squirrels and deer.


15 posted on 12/23/2004 4:44:33 PM PST by meatloaf
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Missouri and Arkansas denuded of their Oaks.....this is serious....


16 posted on 12/23/2004 5:52:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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17 posted on 12/23/2004 11:48:14 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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BTTT!!!!!!!


18 posted on 12/24/2004 3:10:59 AM PST by E.G.C.
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Just damn.

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19 posted on 12/24/2004 3:13:09 AM PST by mhking
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Although the chestnut tree was devastated, pockets of the tree survived. I bought some stock a few years ago and planted them on my property. It is one slow-growing tree, let me tell you. If it keeps growing the way it is, I'll be about 125 years old before I get my first chestnut to roast over that open fire.


20 posted on 12/24/2004 5:05:01 AM PST by sergeantdave (Help save the environment. Drop off your old tires and refrigerators at the Sierra Club.)
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