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To: Lukasz

Btw Read history of Poland if you want to talk about its past.==

Poland has emperial past like Turkey. At one time in history there was struggle between Poland and Turkey on one side and Russia on opposite.
Russian won and became new empire. But Poland and Turkey empires went into dusk.
Since then Poland and Turkey participated in many fights but always lost if they was alone.
SO it make the good memory on national character. Those countries and people fight succesfully only with help of strong allies.
I perfectly understand WHY Poland and Turkey now eager to be into EU. Why those countries don't like to be independent, why Poland for example exchanges the ranks of Soviet empire to EU empire. Poland doesn't want to be alone to be independent. History and national character what it is.
What make me laugh then is when Poland and Turkey whose don't stand to be independent at first place try to teach Russia about freedom:).
It is wrong address for teaching. Russia ALWAYS independent means free but Poland and Turkey are always under ruling of other stronger countries! I call you to look into history yourself:).
Merry Christmas!


51 posted on 12/25/2004 3:32:28 AM PST by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
LOL You should really try to read some not Soviet stuff. What big allies helped to won polish war? The last war which Poland won was Polish-Soviet war 1918-20, when we didn’t had any important allies, with little help of Russian stupidity.

Russia always was independent country, especially when polish troops were in Moscow and our Dmitry was Russian czar. Only thing what defend you was your geographical position. Btw Russian people were always SOOOOOOO independent, or rather were slaves of czars, commies, Putin’s oligarchs. Maybe polish people were occupied by dirty German-Russian bandits but we proofed many times during the rebellions that we give a shit what you thinking and we where always ready to spit the face of the occupant. Something that Russian NEVER were able to do!

Russian military many times proofed, how stupid there were and are, polish-soviet war, war with Finland (ROTFL), Chechnya, Hitler’s aggression where the WEST saved your asses (with help of polish army, freed from your prisons) it is only recent examples. Russians was in Poland only because powerful German army allowed them to do so. ALONE you were ZEROS!

Now guess with nation it is? Dirty, hungry, without honor, with slave mentality? BUT their country WAS an EMPIRE!

Happy new year!
53 posted on 12/25/2004 9:02:53 AM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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