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To: Centurion2000
Jail also gives a lot of people incentive to run. Are you suggesting that we should lessen the punishment for rapists, murders, and robbers?

It is a simple fact that failing to obey the traffic laws puts your life in peril, it also places other drivers lives in jeopardy.

If you commit the crime, pay the fine or do the time. Driving is a privilege not a right. Before anyone jumps on the aforesaid comment, show me in the Constitution where driving is a right. Penumbra arguments don't fly.
37 posted on 12/23/2004 9:17:27 AM PST by Goldwater4ever (Voted early, voted often... for Bush)
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To: Goldwater4ever

"Driving is a privilege not a right" This is bull crap. By your definition then buying a home is a privilege. Buying a gun is a privilege. Every damn thing we do is by permission of government. Have we lost it? Damn straight we have.


51 posted on 12/23/2004 9:31:42 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Goldwater4ever
Before anyone jumps on the aforesaid comment, show me in the Constitution where driving is a right.

Do you have the right to marry or buy a toaster? Do you have a right to whistle while you walk down a sidewalk? Do you even have a right to walk down the sidewalk? Or the right to walk at all? None of these things are spelled out in the Constitution.

Newsflash: American citizens have more rights than just those explicitly spelled out in the Constitution. The Constitution didn't have to grant people the right to own horses, and yet many did, and were free to ride them without government licensing, registration, or fees, and this is even on government postal roads. Where in the Constitution is the power for any government agency to regulate private transportation spelled out?

You have it backwards.

76 posted on 12/23/2004 10:38:47 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Goldwater4ever
"Driving is a privilege not a right."

Roger That!

92 posted on 12/23/2004 11:38:22 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Goldwater4ever
"It is a simple fact that failing to obey the traffic laws puts your life in peril, it also places other drivers lives in jeopardy."

Oh really? Simple fact eh?

So, if I go 61 mph in a 60 mph zone, I am putting lives in peril, but if I go 60 every one is so much safer? After all, at 61 in a 60 zone I am failing to obey traffic laws. I mean, as you said, it "it is a simple fact".

Truth is, many speed limits are arbitrarily set. How many times have you seen a speed limit suddenly drop 10 MPH simply because you crossed a county line? I see it all the time. Same road, same conditions, just different politics.

This is not about safety, it is about milking the citizenry of as much of their hard earned cash as possible.

Nik
119 posted on 12/25/2004 3:06:09 PM PST by Nik Naym
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To: Goldwater4ever
I almost forgot:

ALSO: driving is NOT a privilege. It IS a right. I PAY for the roads, I have every RIGHT to use them. As far as it not being pointed out in the constitution, well, I guess you don't understand what the constitution is.

Nik
120 posted on 12/25/2004 3:08:13 PM PST by Nik Naym
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