[BikerNYC]

If there is no God, there is no value...

What tripe. Of course there is value. The shell that is sitting on the table in front of me has value, not because there is a God, but because my niece gave it to me. My family has value, my friends have value, my job has value, this website has value, not because there is a God, but because I find them valuable. They mean something to me. I don't expect anyone else to find value in my shell, but so what, they find value in other things.

Your thesis removes the human being from the equation. To you, there is value in things independent of our judgments. To you, my shell has some sort of inherent value derived from God. That's absurd. It has value because it came from a little girl's hand.

[CThomasFan]

and why does a shell from a little girl's hand have value? And if it does so to you, does that mean it does so to me?
If not, it has only an ascribed value, as does human flesh- to a cannibal.
To deny the existence of inherent value is not only to pull the rug out from under the religionist, but from under your own feet as well. We all fall in the morass of meaninglessness together, or of pretending that things have value to protect our sanity from the bottomless pit of meaninglessness.
Second, to assert that a thing has value solely because a finite human being asserts that it does, or that a majority votes that it does, or because it just feels like it does-once again places the value statement of the moralist in the same category as that of the cannibal.
Either there is meaning external to man, or Nietzche was right and all of life is absurd, and the only escape suicide. Europe is a perfect example of a society that has taken the latter path. They cant stand for anything because they aren't convinced that anyone is right. Holland's latest news is euthanasia justified on the groud of being sick of life.