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To: scripter
Maybe you should get to know some former homosexuals.

For what purpose? Maybe you should get to know some of the many thousands of men who posed as heterosexual for 10-20 years? Would that help you understand, simply at a human level, how many folks experience great pain in their lives due to denying their sexuality?

You also never responded to Travis McGee nor the many times I asked you sex and marriage between brothers, sisters, parents and their children, etc. You seem to be of the opinion that sex, any sex with consenting adults is perfectly acceptable.

See my previous message, just posted, in answer to Dirty Harry.

You sure like to get off topic and denigrate those who disagree with you.

Off-topic? Considering that I started this thread with a question that has turned into something else entirely, your comments are rather amusing! My primary interest has been to compile a list of problems which opponents predict to occur if gay marriage is legalized. At some future date, I hope to compare the list to what actually occurs.

With respect to your comment about "denigrate those who disagree with you". Is there ANY disagreement from your views that you DO NOT consider "denigrating"? Or, let's try some role reversal. In what DIFFERENT manner would YOU respond to the caustic comments revealed in many of the messages on this thread, if YOU were ME? I'm not referring to our substantive differences. I refer to the LANGUAGE employed.

611 posted on 01/05/2005 12:00:36 PM PST by Ernie.cal
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To: Ernie.cal
My primary interest has been to compile a list of problems which opponents predict to occur if gay marriage is legalized.

The same thing was presented to those who predicted No fault divorce, abortion, and Prayer removed from schools wouldn't result in moral decay and negative results.

Look around Ernie, Teenage out of wedlock pregnancies stats, Abortion mills, Mass murder/suicide at the schools, juvenile sex offenders/assault percentages out of control.

See, Its like Einstein's theory of relativity only spiritually, the less morality the more immorality, There's nothing to predict. Its a force like gravity, you can deny it until me and you both are dead and gone but its still a fact.

615 posted on 01/05/2005 1:06:40 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: Ernie.cal
Maybe you should get to know some of the many thousands of men who posed as heterosexual for 10-20 years?

It's a bad assumption for you to make if you think I don't know any. There are people out there in the same situation who overcame their sexual confusion.

Just like the Bob Blackford short story I listed in post 604, which is the story of a man who struggled for years, married, then experienced a three-year homosexual affair; and then Bob overcame his sexual confusion and is strictly heterosexual now. I encourage you to checkout his video.

There are tens of thousands of former homosexuals.

You seem to be of the opinion that sex, any sex with consenting adults is perfectly acceptable. I say that for a specific reason and it's not because of hatred for anybody. You're asking who's threatened by same-sex marriage yet you consistently run away from questions that are merely taking your worldview to its logical conclusion.

Considering that I started this thread with a question that has turned into something else entirely, your comments are rather amusing!

Why stop at a marraige of two? Why not three, four, five? Why not between brothers? Sisters? Father and son(s)? Fathers(s) and son? Father and daughter? Grandparents and grandchild? As long as they're adults, why not? Is the American Family (your term) ready for that? Are you? Is that a good environment to promote and celebrate for children?

Those types of questions are certainly not off topic. You can attempt to say the thread has turned into something else entirely but you would be wrong, and the record demonstrates just that.

I can't fight your battles for you - You're the one running away from the logical conclusion of your arguments. If you don't like the heat, try answering some questions.

In post 599 you said:

  • many of your remarks are not friendly nor indicative of someone who values other human beings
  • They may listen to your rants about gays
  • your thinly veiled disgust and revulsion for EVERYONE different from you.
And in other posts you've used the word hatred, all quite inappropriately if you actually understood what I've been saying.

You also said: In other words, their audience concentrates on the tone with which they present their arguments more than the specific content of their ideas.

Are you going to try to put your other foot in your mouth now, or are you going to wipe the egg off your face first?

617 posted on 01/05/2005 1:40:44 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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