You are correct about one matter. I have never responded to your "former homosexuals" question. First, I didn't realize that you thought it was of such significance that is deserved some kind of response. Second, I don't know any "former homosexuals" so there isn't much for me to say other than wish them well---in the same way that I wish everyone well who is living an unhappy or troubled life.
Of course, the reverse formulation is also a concern. The thousands upon thousands of men who married and had children because they never allowed themselves to confront their true preferences. Many of these folks describe the "emotional hell" that they lived for 20 or more years during their marriage. Then, after the children are mature, they finally announce their preference and many times there is an amicable divorce with the former spouses remaining best friends.
Perhaps I am mistaken (I have never done much research into the matter) but I doubt that there are many "sexually confused" people who marry and adopt children. Your pejorative remarks about my values is just your ideological bias showing and another example of your unremitting need to demonize anyone who has a different judgment from yours about gays.
A common pattern in your messages is not merely asserting that your position is more reasonable or more factually compelling. Of much greater importance to you is this constant need to assert your superiority over entire categories of other people. By contrast, I merely think you are mistaken---not evil, sick, or revolting (although many of your remarks are not friendly nor indicative of someone who values other human beings.)
I think we have pretty much exhausted this topic for now. I conclude by repeating that the American Family will ultimately make their decision based upon their personal familiarity with flesh-and-blood gay people that they know in their lives as neighbors, friends, co-workers, and famous personalities, etc.
They may listen to your rants about gays. They may even initially think about some of the legitimate points you raise which are genuine concerns that should be discussed and addressed---such as: would a child be more likely to be happy and well-adjusted if raised in a traditional mother-father environment instead of a same-sex couple home?
But, as the final decision is made, Americans will see the human dimension of the argument---not just the pejorative and feverish labels.
You may be familiar with the concept used in professional political and PR circles to describe persons who, regardless of the factual accuracy of their viewpoints, cannot win support from the American public. The problem is that they are perceived as too "hot" a presence on TV or in debates. In other words, their audience concentrates on the tone with which they present their arguments more than the specific content of their ideas. They are perceived as too belligerent or too ideological or too unkind and hostile toward their critics and adversaries.
Instinctively, Americans recoil from such persons because we don't want our lives controlled by ideologues for whom rigid acceptance or implementation of an idea is more important than its impact on actual human beings. This somewhat explains, for example, the disconnect between surveys about the views of our countrymen on abortion (which support making it rare) but the reluctance to endorse or accept the more extreme arguments or policy proposals that pro-life proponents suggest.
My judgment is that the same phenomenon will occur on the gay marriage issue. Your side will raise questions and objections but they will do so in the same manner as in the 500+ messages in this thread. Americans may share some of your concerns but they will be repelled by your thinly veiled disgust and revulsion for EVERYONE different from you. And, ultimately, that will tip the scales in favor of gay marriage.
Thanks for the interesting exchange of ideas.
Here's wishing you a Gay New Year. lol.
Yet tens of thousands of former homosexuals exist and have a great deal to say about their former lifestyle. Maybe you should get to know some former homosexuals.
You also never responded to Travis McGee nor the many times I asked you sex and marriage between brothers, sisters, parents and their children, etc. You seem to be of the opinion that sex, any sex with consenting adults is perfectly acceptable.
You sure like to get off topic and denigrate those who disagree with you.
Thanks for the interesting exchange of ideas.
I don't consider responding to the same bogus arguments interesting, but that's just me.
Here's wishing you a Gay New Year. lol.
I hope you open your mind to the truth about homosexuality. Here's a great place to start:
Homosexuality and Genetics
Year |
Title |
Posted On FR |
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| Abiding Truth | No | |
| Becoming Real | No | |
| Choice 4 Truth | No | |
| Christians No Longer Gay Living For God | No | |
| Courage | No | |
| Courage Online | No | |
| Desert Stream | No | |
| Eagles Wings Ministry | No | |
| Exodus | No | |
| Find Out | No | |
| Gay to Straight | No | |
| Help for Jewish Homosexuals That is Consistent wit | No | |
| Homosexuality and Gender | No | |
| JONAH | No | |
| Living Hope | No | |
| Living Stones Ministries | No | |
| Love Won Out | No | |
| Matthew Manning | No | |
| Narth | No | |
| National Listing of Help | No | |
| New Hope Ministries | No | |
| One By One | No | |
| Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays | No | |
| People Can Change | No | |
| Portland Fellowship | No | |
| Positive Alternatives to Homosexuality | No | |
| Realty Resources | No | |
| Regeneration Books | No | |
| Stephen Bennett Ministries | No | |
| Transforming Congregations | No | |
| Witness Ministries | No |