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To: Luircin
Excuse me, but your references to the civil rights movement are flawed, to put it politely. *AHEM*

What, exactly, is the flaw? Both movements triggered very emotional and often nasty exchanges. Bigots claimed in the 1950's-1960's that God supported their point of view and they predicted horrendous consequences for American society if we adopted "liberal" laws being promoted by "secular humanists" and "Communist agitators", etc.

Homosexuals are more likely to be beaten up by a partner than by "homophobes" committing "hate crimes." Many times more likely. There is no "straight Gestapo," as one acquaintance of mine put it. Your cries of being oppressed are little more than a transparent attempt to garner sympathy

Since I never posted a message discussing "beatings" or "oppression" you must be hallucinating. However, several OTHER persons in this thread have been quite candid in explaining, (sometimes using code words or phrases), how THEY would like to treat gays if given the opportunity.

Finally, be careful about pretending to know anything about the "gay community" which can be quantified.

As is well known, many gays do not reveal their sexual orientation (hence the phrase "in the closet") because of the type of hostility and prejudice which some messages in this thread reveal.

I can, however, tell you this from my personal knowledge. There are numerous homeless boys and girls in our big cities who prostitute themselves for food and money or a place to stay for the night because their purported "Christian" mothers and fathers have disowned them once they acknowledged their sexual preference. During my volunteer work at a crisis center, I personally have twice had to cope with phone calls from suicidal teenagers whose mothers and/or fathers expressed their "Christian love and understanding" by throwing their kids out of the house while describing them with the same terminology used by some of the persons posting messages in this thread.

316 posted on 12/23/2004 12:27:05 PM PST by Ernie.cal
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To: Ernie.cal
Your references to civil rights are still flawed because there IS no overt oppression, and the violence is largely inter-movement.

I know about the gay community because I was part of it for several years. Here's my own personal experience:

Molested by an older sibling at age 12.

Sexually abused by another older male at age 15.

Suicidal at age 17.

Both came out of the closet and got saved at age 18. My parents did NOT disown me; in fact, they were too "accepting" for comfort.

Came out on FR at age 18 as well. Was immediately hit with prayers and friendly encouragement and absolutely no anger or disgust or hatred.

And also at age 18, I politely disagreed with a "gay friendly" person I know in regards to marriage and was immediately called a hater, a Nazi, and every other rotten name that I'm sure that most of the other people on this thread can recognize.

Now, I have a thick skull, but the message eventually pounds through.

As for your other comments, I am not afraid to admit that I have no experience and so have no response; I'll let the other participants on this thread tear 'em up.

One more question. How old WERE these "homeless boys and girls"?

321 posted on 12/23/2004 12:46:49 PM PST by Luircin (Proudly ex-gay)
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To: Ernie.cal
What, exactly, is the flaw? Both movements triggered very emotional and often nasty exchanges. Bigots claimed in the 1950's-1960's that God supported their point of view and they predicted horrendous consequences for American society if we adopted "liberal" laws being promoted by "secular humanists" and "Communist agitators", etc.

Well, there IS the *small* matter of 40 million aborted babies since the liberal Roe V Wade decision. You may not consider that a horrendous consequence. But the liberal party IS the abortion party.

324 posted on 12/23/2004 12:51:29 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Ernie.cal

Actually many of those runaways are drug addicts and libertines. They participate in same sex acts because chicken hawks will pay them for sex or even give them food and drugs. "Whatever it takes to survive".

If it was a woman paying those young boys to have sex, I doubt they'd turn her down.

Dee Dee Ramone was one such "punk" (male prostitute). He didn't engage in same sex relationships once he left the streets.


334 posted on 12/23/2004 1:02:12 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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