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1 posted on 12/23/2004 7:40:45 AM PST by Ernie.cal
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Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Haven't had a chance to read the thread, looks like some standard issue homo agenda talking points.

lj will be gone from FR for a short while. I'm the volunteer until little jeremiah gets back online.

If you want on/off the list let me know.

176 posted on 12/23/2004 9:03:16 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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YOU'RE RIGHT (the author of the article)- AND DEMOCRAPS SHOULD SPEND THE NEXT 4 YEARS MAKING THIS THEIR CORE ISSUE!!!

(please please please please please please )


177 posted on 12/23/2004 9:03:22 AM PST by Mr. K (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. god Bless America, Our Troops, W, and Ann Coulter!)
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consider this what you request is an amendment to current accept norms of today society. You are asking to change the Norms based on sexual preference. You create the proverbial slippery slope with that. You say that it would not have adverse effects on society, I say it does.

When you allow a change based on preferece where does it stop? pologomy, beastiality... etc...

This has nothing to do with religon or Gods law... although I do belive that those should have some impact on society. But what you ask is like ask us to allow people to murder becuase they want to.

What you do in your own house is your issue. The rest of society doesn't need to privy to it or exposed to it.


198 posted on 12/23/2004 9:20:10 AM PST by Americanwolf (Americanwolf......Independent Voter with a Nasty streak to the right of Attila The Hun!)
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The real answer is that they are evil pedophiles.


203 posted on 12/23/2004 9:21:45 AM PST by bluebunny
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You might as well try to explain the color red to a blind man.


205 posted on 12/23/2004 9:22:06 AM PST by gogeo (Short and non offensive)
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It's all about a natural tendency for most of us "normals" to look at such behavior as morally repugnant and generally useless to the preservation of homo sapiens as a species.


219 posted on 12/23/2004 9:32:57 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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The problem with same sex marriage is that it a part of culture war being waged against the United States to bring us down as a country. This country was not founded on the principal of "choice" that's an argument of those on the wrong side of the culture war to defeat the United States. As a country, we need to strive for traditional values, even when we are imperfect, we still need to strive for it. Otherwise the Osma Bin Ladens will have a much easier time bringing us down. This is our strength and as a country we must not allow those who wish us harm to weaken us. It's a war!
225 posted on 12/23/2004 9:40:43 AM PST by rodeo-mamma (the democrats always encourage our enemies)
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From a secular standpoint it is unnatural to go anal. It does no benefit to the species but gratifies perverse, selfish urges. The disease rate is astronomical. The suicide rate is astronomical. The rate of INCEST/RAPE is astronomical.

From a disease standpoint: The two holes that possess extreme volumes of nasty bacterial and viral flora are the mouth and the anal canal. The rate of STDs among homosexuals and lesbians are unusual in content and volume around the mouth, throat, and anus region, with unusually high probability of disease in all areas with bi-sexual women.

Finally, homosexuals and lesbians CANNOT REPRODUCE. THEY RECRUIT. Which is the sole reason why the radical homosexual agenda seeks to undermine the family and societal agencies that allow interaction between adults and children (Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, religion, schools) without protection. They vigorously seek to overturn age of consent and sodomy laws. They also seek to destroy the idea of involuntary sex (rape for those in Rio Linda).

To quote Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew during a recent irreligious Loveline program

Adam: "I'm tired of hearing these new PSAs during AIDS AWARENESS that say that homosexual sex is the same as hetero-sex. Wait, Drew, is it all the same?
Drew: "They say it's all the same."
Adam: "Really? but Drew is it really all the same to you?"

(Drew discusses the diseases and ramifications of a homosexual lifestyle that I just highlighted).

Adam: "Yeah but this is what I'm saying...Drew when you think of all the straight people that died from AIDS, who comes to mind?"
Drew: "Ummmmm. No one?"
Adam: "No, there's got to be someone, because it's all the same Drew. That's what the PSA says. Straight people are dropping like flies."
Drew: "Uh huh. I know what the PSA says. Ummmmm. No one"
Adam: "PSA's don't lie, Drew! How about Freddie Mercury?"
Drew: "He was gay."
Adam: "No, really? Yeah but still, its all the same kind of sex. NO IT'S NOT THE SAME!!!"


226 posted on 12/23/2004 9:41:15 AM PST by sully777 (our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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Let's start with the basic premise that homosexuality is the antithesis to the paradigm form of creatures on Earth and go from there. Against that paradigm, homosexuality is a perversion, so a social structure that institutionalizes perversion is dangerous to society as a whole and thereby to the individuals that benefit from that society.

228 posted on 12/23/2004 9:42:34 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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Myth: What people do "in the privacy of their own bedrooms" is not anyone else’s business.

Reality: Private behavior often has very public consequences. Statistics clearly show that homosexual behavior is destructive and bears high costs, not only to the individual, but to society. Homosexual behavior has implications far beyond the bedroom. Last year the U.S. government spent billions of dollars on AIDS treatment, research and programs. AIDS in the U.S. is largely a homosexual disease stemming from unhealthy sexual practices. There are many consensual behaviors that current laws and customs have deemed harmful because of their negative effect on society. Drug use, prostitution, rape and incest are examples of activities that happen in the "privacy of bedrooms."

The U.S. Supreme Court ruling (Lawrence v. Texas) decriminalizing homosexual sex has opened the door for children to be taught in public schools that homosexual sodomy is normal, healthy and the equivalent of marital sex. California has already established programs to accomplish the above. Now that homosexual sex is legal it is coming out of the bedroom and into the classroom. See Fast Facts #1-23, 35-40, 107-113

Myth and Reality about Homosexuality

229 posted on 12/23/2004 9:42:45 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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bump for later read


232 posted on 12/23/2004 9:43:10 AM PST by 506trooper (There is no such thing as too much ammo or fuel on board.........unless you're on fire)
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I have read many messages which object to same-sex marriage but I am still waiting to learn what specific adverse consequences opponents of gay marriage anticipate to result from its legalization.

Why? This is a straw man argument...

245 posted on 12/23/2004 9:56:46 AM PST by DBeers
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bump


246 posted on 12/23/2004 9:57:11 AM PST by foreverfree
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bump


249 posted on 12/23/2004 9:59:14 AM PST by foreverfree
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Do opponents of same-sex marriage propose that our society should begin identifying areas where choices involving human intimacy should be regulated by government entities and thus dilute our commitment to the values inherent in a free society?

A free society would be one where the government does not promote homosexual activity, but is neutral about it, and allows members of society to retain their own moral and religious beliefs about this complex issue of homosexual activity, about which people have a right to hold differing opinions.

259 posted on 12/23/2004 10:16:47 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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Libertarians are out in force with ernie.cal: Legalize all forms of prostitution, no age of consent laws, polygamy, bestiality, and oh yeah, legal drugs to kill the pain for those seeking relief from the libertarian utopian visions. Get the government off our backs--so to speak! Say no to government coersion and yes to homosexual coersion, especially of children, puppies, and gerbils.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall James Madison and all writing one line, much less volumes, on the subject of homo-erotica in the Federalist Papers. But the Constitution is a living document, meant to change with society and the times (I said with thick sarcasm and irony for the apparent libertarian dilemma toward the living document argument).


261 posted on 12/23/2004 10:20:21 AM PST by sully777 (our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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268 posted on 12/23/2004 10:28:23 AM PST by Protagoras (Peace on earth to men of good will)
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Humanity and decency, neither of which you understand


270 posted on 12/23/2004 10:35:04 AM PST by lwoodham
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Geez....not this again!! What part of slippery slope don't you understand?!!! When we allow the long-standing institution of marriage to be hijacked by those who are disordered (gender identity, incestuous, bestial, polygymous, pedophiliac) then it is no longer a viable unit.

Regardless of current heterosexual marriage trends, with all its imperfections, it is still the healthiest union for children. To cheapen, or water down, the current marriage partnering with any combination besides man/woman unions will precipitate more gender identity, incestuous, bestial, polygymous, pedophiliac behaviors and abuses.

It's abnormal for two male sexual organs or two female sexual organs to try and mate. The human body is made for male/female reproduction only. Anything outside of that isn't a natural pairing and does not deserve the support of legitimacy. Is that too hard to understand?

292 posted on 12/23/2004 11:20:16 AM PST by libertylass
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What do broken windows and empty building due to a neighborhood? They don’t hurt anyone.

I think it is amazing that the left screams for acceptance of multiculturism, yet denies the culture of the American People, our history, our symbols, and our holidays.

Besides it’s a fake argument that gays are discriminated against. No one ask you to prove your heterosexual in order to get a marriage license. Society has established rules. You can’t marry someone too young, you can’t marry a close family member, and you can’t merry the same sex. It does not say homo’s can’t get married, just not to someone of the same sex. So where is the discrimination?


300 posted on 12/23/2004 11:39:53 AM PST by Exton1
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