Boeing to Sell Up to 50 7E7 Planes to JAL

Reuters ^ | 12/22/04 | Reuters

[KwasiOwusu]

TOKYO (Reuters) - Boeing Co. could sell up to 50 of its new 7E7 planes to Japan Airlines Corp. (JAL) under a deal announced on Wednesday worth as much as $6 billion at list prices.

Asia's biggest airline joins key Japanese rival All Nippon Airways as one of the first carriers to choose the sleek 7E7, a mid-sized airliner expected to offer low fuel and operating costs when it debuts in 2008.

"We chose the 7E7 after carefully considering both it and Airbus's aircraft," a JAL spokesman said.

A firm order for 30 planes and options to buy 20 more will be signed next spring with delivery beginning around April 2008. The planes are worth about $120 million each.

JAL plans to replace 36 Boeing 767 jets and 22 Airbus A300-600s in its fleet.

[SW6906]

Yes, I've flown on several of the 737NGs. I even got on a delivery flight for Alaska Airlines! The pilot picking it up was a friend of mine. We flew out around Puget Sound for an hour or so, then landed at Sea-Tac. Pretty cool.

[Denver Ditdat]

The first option if you like hex, and the second option if you like beer (obscure ham reference there).

<g> It's been a long time since I heard a beer called an "807". Heck, it's been a while since I've seen a real 807.

[Yo-Yo]

The link is here, but it seems to be down this morning.

[Guillermo]

Subsidized by other countries.

If it wasn't for Airbus, Boeing would put out a crappy product, at high prices, and would have all teh business.

Boeing vs. Airbus is good for consumers.

[Guillermo]

I guess I didnt't state my point as well as I should have.

Look at my post right above this one.

[ConservativeStatement]

You were proven to be correct:

China Eastern Airlines to purchase 6 Boeing airplanes

China Eastern Airlines Corp. announced here recently that it would buy six 737-700 airplanes from US aircraft maker Boeing Co. -- another big deal for the company after it agreed to buy 20 A330-300 aircraft from Airbus inOctober.

The six planes, worth 2 billion yuan (about 241.5 million US dollars), which will be delivered starting in January 2006, will be used for both international and domestic routes, according to the contract signed between China Eastern Airlines and Boeing lastweek.

Currently, there are 42 Boeing airplanes operational in the fleet of China Eastern Airlines, including 737-300, 737-700 and 737-800 jets, said the company.

By the end of 2005, 13 more Boeing airplanes will be deliveredto China Eastern Airlines, increasing its number of Boeing jets to55, said the state-owned airline.

Source: Xinhua

http://english.people.com.cn/200412/28/eng20041228_168875.html

[DennisR]

I am not sure it is only a matter of subsidies: Airbus borrows money from government at favorable rates in order to develop a new airplane. If the plane is not profitable, they do not have to repay the money. Boeing obviously cannot do that. We are "stuck" paying our own bills.

[longtermmemmory]

How about the GSM phone systems? They are taking over.

How about their future Galeleo system which is intended to conflict with the US military GPS system.

[longtermmemmory]

Is boeing going to start having more uniform cockpits? I have read that a major selling point of the Airbus products is the consistent cockpit across the entire product lines.

[ConservativeStatement]

The 757 and 767 Boeing flight decks are similar I believe. This is from Boeing.com:

"In response to airline preference, the layout of the 777 flight deck is in a horizontal format similar to that of the 747-400. Principal flight, navigation and engine information is presented on six large display screens."

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_background.html

[SW6906]

Thanks.

[SW6906]

Since the 777, Boeing has gone to the glass cockpit: video screens that can be configured in a number of formats/layouts. Heck, I think you can even make a 777 deck look like a classic 737 with analog gauges on the screen! The 7E7 will have the latest generation of this concept.

[longtermmemmory]

Now if they could reduce it to a single screen we could get certified on one home computer. Just wishful thinking.

[KwasiOwusu]

"How about the GSM phone systems? They are taking over."

They are taking over nothing.

# 1 , their top cell phone maker, Nokia has been losing market share like mad over the past year or so.
Meanwhile Motorola and Samsung and LG etc etec keep making big market share gains.

# 2, Microsoft smartphone software continues to make big market share gains in both smartphone and PDA phone software.

# 3, Texas Instruments is the biggest maker of cell phone chips on the market to nearly ever cell phone maker on the planet, including European cell phone makers like Nokia, and Asian cell phone makers, and Intel is making an aggressive push into that as well.

And # 4, Qualcomm's technology continues to play a very essential part on most of the cell phones used in Asia today, resulting in Qualcomm getting heavy license fees on a substantial percentage of cell phones sold in both Asia and America.


I don't see any Europeans "taking over" anything here.
Its the Americans and to an extent the Asians who are taking over.