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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

> Moral standards come from God.

They also come from *other* gods. And they come from the use of reason.

> If we don't get our morals from God our morals will change constantly based on who is in power at the time.

Moral standards changed throughout Christian history. At one time, slavery was "moral," and was supported via scripture. At one time the Divine Right Of Kings was "moral." At one time subjugation of woman was "moral." At one time hunting down wiches was "moral." At one time the Prohibition of booze was "moral." At one time (thinking Plymouth Plantation here), communism was "moral."

Whether *you* think that these positions are Biblically supportable or not is irrelevant... the people at the time, reading their Bibles, saw that morality in there. As honestly as you hold your Bible-bas3ed positions... so did they.


72 posted on 12/22/2004 8:29:37 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: orionblamblam
At one time, slavery was "moral," and was supported via scripture. At one time the Divine Right Of Kings was "moral." At one time subjugation of woman was "moral." At one time hunting down wiches was "moral." At one time the Prohibition of booze was "moral." At one time (thinking Plymouth Plantation here), communism was "moral."

Please reference the verses in the Bible (Christian) that say slavery is moral, subjugation of women is moral, hunting down (I'm assuming that you mean killing) people who claim to be witches is moral, and dictatorships are moral. Until than you have no argument greater than "Oh, yeah... I say so..." I'll wait for the verse references from you.

83 posted on 12/22/2004 8:40:38 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: orionblamblam
Moral standards changed throughout Christian history. At one time, slavery was "moral," and was supported via scripture.

If you were but to seperate the 'standards' from the interpretations of men both correct and errant you would realize that the standards have never changed and that your non-based basis of standards is what you yourself decry. -you are all wet on this subject -pull foot out of mouth.

190 posted on 12/22/2004 11:43:22 AM PST by DBeers
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