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To: chronic_loser

The dispensational view has also been shown to have been around in the first centuries of the church.


462 posted on 01/17/2005 7:54:21 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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The dispensational view has also been shown to have been around in the first centuries of the church.>>

As I said before, THERE IS NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE OF A "SECRET RAPTURE" in the history of Christian Theology. NONE. It is a late doctrine, birthed by a charismatic milkmaid, in the congregation of the heretic Edward Irving. Charles Darby was hanging out with Irivingites in the earlier years of Irving's defection from Presbyterianism and attended quite a few meetings. Before Ms. McDonald's "vision," in an ecstatic utterance, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REFERENCE ANYWHERE to a "secret coming" of Jesus for his people. Of course, it would have to come from some type of utterance like this, since there is absolutely no evidence for it in the Scriptures themselves. If you want a rapture, you have to go to the text LOOKING for something that you can hammer it into. "Come up here" is about the silliest thing one could point to as textual evidence for such a doctrine, but it is on this type of text-proofing and worse that the whole doctrine rests. Strange that every single theologian before 1868 missed that, since it is the critical lynchpin for removing "plan b" from the scene and getting on with the "plain language meaning" of the OT promises to Israel.
This is critical, because it refutes the assertion that "dispensationalism has been around since the first centuries of the church." When I first read this claim in Ryrie and a few of the Dallas guys, I went and looked at some of the "evidence" they pointed to. Those do not argue for "dispensationalism" or any of its central tenets at all, especially not the radical disjunction between Israel and the New Israel, and their respective futures which dispensationaliam insists on.

All this is well documented, if you wish to see it.
558 posted on 01/20/2005 2:36:13 AM PST by chronic_loser (The mindless violence of 99% of Muslims give a bad name to the rest of Islam)
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