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Do we need a national ID card?
Washington Times ^ | 12/22/04 | Richard W. Rahn

Posted on 12/21/2004 10:32:53 PM PST by kattracks

Are you in favor of a national identity card? Even though many Americans are against the idea of a national identity card, it is coming. In fact, in many ways, it is already here. Every American citizen and every foreign worker in America is required to have a Social Security card. Your Social Security card is only supposed to be used to gain employment and receive Society Security benefits, but try applying for credit without giving your Social Security number — and most often you will be turned down.

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 If the question posed at the beginning of this commentary was: "Would you be in favor of a card that could prove your ID while at the same time protect you from giving information about yourself (including medical and financial information) that you do not wish to provide?" I am sure that more people would give a yes response.
    The fact is we do not need nor should we have a government issued national ID card. What we need is for the government to specify for what purposes and when it positively must know our identity, and what constitutes acceptable proof. Private organizations, such as airlines, banks and merchants already do the same thing. Then the private sector will develop the most user-privacy-friendly and cost-effective devices. Tiny computer chips containing all of the necessary biometric information coupled with nearly unbreakable encryption have already been developed. Consumers will be able to choose what information they wish to have stored in such devices, and who is allowed to have access to what. The chips can be placed in "smart cards," cell phones and PDAs, or even implanted in the body.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cardedbiometrically; gettingcarded; nationalid; privacy; privacylist
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1 posted on 12/21/2004 10:32:54 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Every American citizen and every foreign worker in America is required to have a Social Security card.

One more good reason to end Social Screw-urity. ID Card? I don't need no stinkin' ID Card.

2 posted on 12/21/2004 10:35:01 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: kattracks
I've given in to the idea. Our drivers license used to work just fine. But with all of the illegals using them, it's not a true identification card. Most people wouldn't carry a passport. I see no other way. The fear is having this card accessed by illegals.
3 posted on 12/21/2004 10:35:44 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: SittinYonder
Social Screw-urity
It's called 'socialist screw-urity'
4 posted on 12/21/2004 10:36:38 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: kattracks

2 words Hell No


5 posted on 12/21/2004 10:36:47 PM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

I'm not going to agree to it unless it's REQUIRED at every polling place in this country.


6 posted on 12/21/2004 10:37:00 PM PST by Howlin (Search, use it.)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Thanks. I went to publik screwl and never learnt how to spel


7 posted on 12/21/2004 10:37:39 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: kattracks

We already have one. SSN is on everything. Drivers' licenses are required for everything, too. Who can fight all the "requirements" imposed for no good reason on a daily basis? It's ridiculous trying to climb uphill all the time.


8 posted on 12/21/2004 10:38:29 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Howlin

Bump to that.


9 posted on 12/21/2004 10:38:53 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: kattracks

If I can't force my neighbor to accept a number I personally want to issue to him, my agent in government has no authority to do that either. Principal & Agent. Think about it.

10 posted on 12/21/2004 10:39:34 PM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: LibertarianInExile

With a picture!


11 posted on 12/21/2004 10:41:39 PM PST by Howlin (Search, use it.)
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To: kattracks; gubamyster

The only reason to have a national ID card is so that the government can open the borders completely. Then when there is massive migration north from the South American countries, and the nonnationals entering our country need services, they can identify those who have to foot the bill and make them pay-- the US citizen!


12 posted on 12/21/2004 10:46:17 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Andy from Beaverton; kattracks
I've given in to the idea. Our drivers license used to work just fine. But with all of the illegals using them, it's not a true identification card. Most people wouldn't carry a passport. I see no other way. The fear is having this card accessed by illegals.

The idea that ANY type of identification would thwart terrorism doesn't make sense. We were able to identify all of the 9/11 terrorist. True, they may have been half way through their "virgins" before we could definitively identify them all, but so what? What good does that do us? How would national ID cards stop future terrorist that presently live in the US from inflicting harm?
13 posted on 12/21/2004 10:47:25 PM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: kattracks
Yes! Let's propose and debate a national ID card, instead of doing something more worthwhile: enforcing border security and immigration laws.
14 posted on 12/21/2004 10:47:55 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: kattracks

My papers are never in order as it is. Don't give me any more papers to carry.


15 posted on 12/21/2004 10:57:14 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: kattracks
Already got one

Retired military ID card.

Good in 50 locations, 51 if you count DC

16 posted on 12/21/2004 10:59:52 PM PST by 506trooper (There is no such thing as too much ammo or fuel on board.........unless you're on fire)
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To: Howlin

Their going to ram it down our throats and there won't be anything we can do about it.

It will be tacked on as a rider on a "must pass" bill, voted on at 3 am, without discussion.


17 posted on 12/21/2004 11:11:25 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: philetus

"Their going to ram it down our throats and there won't be anything we can do about it.

It will be tacked on as a rider on a "must pass" bill, voted on at 3 am, without discussion."

Then send them all home at the next election. Make sure they know they lose all our votes if they pass this NWO crap.


18 posted on 12/21/2004 11:15:56 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: kattracks

If the government ever "leaked" this biometric info to the private sector... and we know the government never has problems with "leaking" information... can you imagine the increase in telemarketing harrassment? blah.


19 posted on 12/21/2004 11:16:20 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!)
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To: Wolfhound777

You really think the replacements would be any better?


20 posted on 12/21/2004 11:25:03 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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