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To: arasina
I notice you didn't answer my earlier question wherein I also stated that you are COLD

Your question was based on your statement that I am COLD. Since the statement is incorrect, any subsequent questions about this statement would not render any meaningful responses.

However, my questions directly addressed the statements that you made:

Do you propose that you are aware of what successful women want since you stated that they "lie to themselves about what they truly want?". Since you are stipulating that successful women lie to themselves, what is it that they lie about?

I still don't get the feeling of envy that you seem to want to incite.

My reference to the photograph was not an attempt to incite an envy, but to defy your previous statement “women who are not that good looking will strive to achieve in the business world”.

I'm not a 'hot babe' like you, but I'm confident of my appearance and my accomplishments in the 'business world'. I'm secure in 'who I am' even.

I applaud you for your confidence and security. I wish I could observe more women that are confident and secure.

Your insinuation by putting 'business world' in quotes is ambiguous to me. Would you care to elaborate on this?

In regards to “No wimpy 'nice guys' need 'apply', however”, most certainly this is your preference, although you may be hastily associating nice guys with wimps.

402 posted on 12/27/2004 8:56:10 AM PST by njwoman
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To: njwoman; arasina
Your question was based on your statement that I am COLD. Since the statement is incorrect...

From your previous posts:

278: "The only thing that is annoying at times is that a lot of males (not all) are intimidated by strong, confident, and successful women."

283: "No. I dissented to the statement which stipulated that women defer the decisions to males every time a decision is a close call."

When you come to Free Republic and start speaking the language of leftist feminism with excessively legalistic phrasing, the accusations of coldness follow as a matter of course. That, plus the repeated posts calling attention to your supposed photograph (with no accompanying biographical information), is why I now think you are a troll. But a subtle one - much more clever than the usual "I hate Bush" crowd.

I hope you're getting good material for your graduate thesis on "Male Attitudes Toward Successful Women" from this thread. ;)

409 posted on 12/27/2004 12:43:31 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: njwoman; Hodar; F16Fighter
My reference to the photograph was not an attempt to incite an envy, but to defy your previous statement “women who are not that good looking will strive to achieve in the business world”.

My statements were nothing more than a speculative response to a theory posited by Hodar. No more, no less. Nothing personal. My Man, you are COLD. comment was personal in that it was my personal opinion following reasoned observation of your replies on this thread. You didn't answer my question that followed my opinionated statement, and that was Where is the LOVE in any of your comments about relationships and marriage?

Your insinuation by putting 'business world' in quotes is ambiguous to me. Would you care to elaborate on this?

My achievements have been in the 'television broadcasting world' and the 'improv comedy world' so that's why I chose to put quotes around the term 'business world'. I was distinguishing my own experience from the usual and everyday concept of a 'business woman' so as to be UNambiguous. It was probably just something that sprang from my own thoughts and the quotation marks were perhaps not necessary. Kind of a habit I have because I have trouble thinking of all the fun I've had working in a creative environment as 'business'. :-)

In regards to “No wimpy 'nice guys' need 'apply', however”, most certainly this is your preference, although you may be hastily associating nice guys with wimps.

Yes, it is my preference as well as -- once again -- my personal experience -- which I do not care to elaborate upon on this forum. I have reason to believe that wimpy and nice guy are interchangeable terms, but that is my own admittedly biased view.

The question is, I suppose, can a woman be an executive or manager in the (here we go again) 'business world' and also be a 'subordinate' to her husband? I said earlier in my reply to F16: It takes a sometimes precarious balance to make a relationship or marriage work; It shouldn't have to be a battle of supremacy. Compromise of inherently different natures and a desire to bring out the best in one another is usually effective regardless of the social standing of either person. I believe that wholeheartedly and if compromise means subordinating one's own stubborn nature to a man who deserves a woman's love and respect, by all means, do it. I will. I'd much rather be a strong woman Laura Bush than a strong woman Hillary Clinton.

Does that clarify things for you?

478 posted on 12/28/2004 11:01:24 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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