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To: jwalsh07

Yup. Says that while, in very conjectural theory, the universe *might* be a creation.... it also points out that the "creator" might well be no more than some government science project.

For *real* philosophical fun, imagine 400 years from now, a group of physicists using a ringworld-sized supercollider create a universe. That universe being the one they inhabit. Thus they are their own creators. No beginning, no ending. Whoopee.

Other lines in quantum mechanical thinking about cosmogenesis posit that "pocket universes" are formed naturally due to the space-time stresses caused by black holes. And that each time this happens, the laws and constants are changed ("mutated") very slightly. This would lead to the evolution of universes that have physical principles most ameniable to the creation of large numbers of massive black holes. And since those principles are co-incidentally also good for the evolution of our form of life...

Interesting conjectures, but at this time basically jsut conjectures. They do, however, have math behind them, that runs waaaaaaay over most peoples heads.


234 posted on 12/22/2004 7:37:47 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: orionblamblam
Yup.

Did you think it was from the Onion at first? :-}

Says that while, in very conjectural theory, the universe *might* be a creation.... it also points out that the "creator" might well be no more than some government science project.

Not the way I read it. The way I read it the scientist in question posits that it is a creation event but that it was no big deal. Sorta like your home chemistry kit and your magic wand and away we go.

For *real* philosophical fun, imagine 400 years from now, a group of physicists using a ringworld-sized supercollider create a universe. That universe being the one they inhabit. Thus they are their own creators. No beginning, no ending. Whoopee.

Sounds like faith healing. To each his own.

Other lines in quantum mechanical thinking about cosmogenesis posit that "pocket universes" are formed naturally due to the space-time stresses caused by black holes. And that each time this happens, the laws and constants are changed ("mutated") very slightly. This would lead to the evolution of universes that have physical principles most ameniable to the creation of large numbers of massive black holes. And since those principles are co-incidentally also good for the evolution of our form of life...

Right, but we're back where we started from. Where did the matter in the black holes come from?

Interesting conjectures, but at this time basically jsut conjectures. They do, however, have math behind them, that runs waaaaaaay over most peoples heads.

Conjecture is a very generous way of describing that article.

250 posted on 12/22/2004 1:06:45 PM PST by jwalsh07
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