Kibble for Thought: Dog diversity prompts new evolution theory

Science News ^ | 18 December 2004 | Christen Brownlee

[fr_freak]

I guess I'm a little confused as to how you think life, insects, plants, animals etc. came to being on this planet.

Really? If I have been defending Creationism this whole time, what do you think one of my possible answers might be?

I'm more confused about how YOU think all these creatures got here. They had to start from somewhere. If they all evolved, then there had to be a first organism. Where did that come from? The funny part is that you find it ridiculous that I might answer that an intelligent designer created them out of thin air, but yet the logical conclusion of your reasoning is that they were created out of thin air by RANDOM FORCES.

[orionblamblam]

> By this I mean there has to be hard-wired into the organism a trigger that causes it to put into motion the reproductive mechanisms that it has.

Considering that the precursor molecules to the very simplest things maybe called life are themselves self-replicating, and not due to any desire on their part, but just part of the mechanism... it would not be surprisign if early life was equally as prolific and yet as disinterested.

> Viruses, by the way, cannot replicate themselves.

They seem to be quite capable of it.

[fr_freak]

> Viruses, by the way, cannot replicate themselves.

They seem to be quite capable of it.

I'm not a Biology major, but if I recall correctly viruses require a host cell to infect in order to reproduce. I think it's safe to assume that if a virus was the first life on Earth, it did not have a host cell to infect.

The Difference Between Bacteria and Viruses

[Clorinox]

"but yet the logical conclusion of your reasoning is that they were created out of thin air by RANDOM FORCES."

Not thin air at all, but a planet called earth with various chemicals, air, liquid water, dirt, heat, an atmosphere capable of blocking solar radiation etc. I do believe life spontaneously evolved from these basic components. So do you think all forms of life were created at once, or did the creator parse out this life over long periods of time? Is the creator creating new species out of thin air as we speak, or are these species deriving mostly from sexual reproduction?

[SunkenCiv]

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