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To: Non-Sequitur
The confederate forces had been firing at anything flying the U.S. flag long before Lincoln's resupply effort.

Overcharacterization for polemical effect -- how well you do it.

The Southerners were concerned only with the possibility -- the probability (about which they guessed aright) that Lincoln had been lying to them and would attempt to reinforce the garrison with more troops. He did.

In the end, they came to the conclusion that the only way to get their war was to bombard the fort itself.

Oh, I'm sorry, but "getting their war" was Lincoln's purpose -- and will you insist I quote Lincoln's personal secretary, John Nicolay, to you to prove it?

Starting a war was Lincoln's idea. I think he wanted a war all along --ever since 1856, when he finally concluded that there was no constitutional way to abolish slavery. (So, he decided on an unconstitutional one -- a civil war.)

27 posted on 12/22/2004 6:49:13 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Thank you for your support! Non-Sequential will always try to attempt to re-establish some moral high ground where there is none.


28 posted on 12/22/2004 11:53:50 PM PST by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Overcharacterization for polemical effect -- how well you do it.

They had fired on the Star of the West and the Rhoda Shannon.

The Southerners were concerned only with the possibility -- the probability (about which they guessed aright) that Lincoln had been lying to them and would attempt to reinforce the garrison with more troops. He did.

It didn't have to happen. Lincoln's intentions to reinforce only if the resupply effort was opposed was made cleart to Governor Pickens and Major Anderson.

Starting a war was Lincoln's idea. I think he wanted a war all along --ever since 1856, when he finally concluded that there was no constitutional way to abolish slavery. (So, he decided on an unconstitutional one -- a civil war.)

Overcharacterization for polemical effect -- you do it well yourself. Ending slavery was never an overriding goal of the Union. Preserving it was an overriding goal of the confederacy.

33 posted on 12/23/2004 3:10:03 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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