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"Anyone who underestimates the Chinese is a fool," says Olsen.

Do the people who are penning all the "free trade" deals underestimate China, or do they know the threat and do it anyway?
1 posted on 12/20/2004 10:18:58 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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2 posted on 12/20/2004 10:21:41 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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I've heard that the chinese apple industry harms out grape industry because the apple juice can be used as a sweetener instead of the white grape juice..

Rights, farms, environment ping.
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I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

3 posted on 12/20/2004 10:36:33 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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Being a net importer of food worked wonders for British prospects for success in WWI. Sarcasm off.


5 posted on 12/20/2004 10:44:31 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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We are also screwing ourselves. I live in a part of MA that is apple country, and in talking to an apple farmer he was complaining that while he can't use Alar which reduces his yield, he has to compete with overseas apple producers that can use Alar. Even though it has since that the Alar scare was just BS. And where did we see BS first. Yup 60 Minutes. But the laws against it's usage are still on the books.


8 posted on 12/20/2004 10:53:40 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

anyone who underestimates china's move to be a hegemon, their term, doesn't understand the chinese.

they're contracting for oil and minerals in the southern western hemisphere and providing money for infrastructure development in these countries. besides the obvious need for oil and minerals, the stategy is to undermine the united states within our own hemisphere.

the united states has fought to a stalemate or lost 2 wars on the asian continent, the continent that china claims to be hegemon.

the new left of the 1970s undermined the american war in vietnam. today they're the leaders in the american media, and they're doing the same thing: ted kennedy criticized the iraq war and the day after al jazzera broadcast al sadr's repetition of kennedy's remarks. the left will someday get what they worked for--a weakened america confronted by china and islam.

in its rise to a world economic power china will increasingly move 3rd world countries against the united states. by trading and aiding south and central american countries, china can indirectly control america's food supply. our food supply is increasingly becoming international.

meanwhile, china will protect persian and arab countries in their jihad against the united states, and in some cases, giving them military and technical assistance.


11 posted on 12/21/2004 5:29:04 AM PST by ken21 (kerrycide = running 4 president on treasonous service in vietnam)
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It has always been interesting to me to watch my state politics. On one side, you have politicians and businessmen who fall over each other to do business with the Chinese and other countries. On the other side, we have people who are trying all sorts of tactics to keep imports out.

Personally, we should ask for FAIR and free trade.
16 posted on 12/21/2004 7:39:44 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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