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Heterosexuals Caught in Gay Marriage Issue
yahoo.com ^ | Mon - Dec. 20, 2004 | AP

Posted on 12/20/2004 6:34:15 PM PST by crushelits

NEW PALTZ, N.Y. - The Social Security Administration (news - web sites) is rejecting marriage documents issued for heterosexual couples in four communities that performed weddings for gay couples earlier this year.

The agency is rejecting all marriage certificates issued in New Paltz, N.Y., after Feb. 27, when the town's mayor began marrying gay couples, according to town officials.

Certificates issued during the brief periods when Asbury Park, N.J., Multnomah County, Ore., and Sandoval County, N.M., recognized gay marriages are also being rejected.

Susie Kilpatrick, 30, of New Paltz, said the local Social Security (news - web sites) office told her that no marriage documents issued after Feb. 27 could be used to establish identity because of the gay marriages that took place there earlier this year. About 125 heterosexual couples have been married since then.

Kilpatrick said her marriage certificate was rejected when she went to get a new card earlier this month so she could take her husband's name.

"What concerns me is that the certificate is the only way to prove that we're married," she told The New York Times for Sunday editions. "If something happens to us, or some other couple from New Paltz, we can't prove we're married. We would not be able to draw benefits."

The agency did not respond to repeated requests from the Times for comment. A call from The Associated Press for comment on Sunday was not immediately returned.

The agency posts rules on its Web site spelling out which documents can be used to obtain Social Security cards.

It accepts civil-union documents from Vermont and marriage licenses for gay couples in Massachusetts. Marriage certificates for gay couples from San Francisco are not allowed, but those for heterosexual couples from the city are being recognized.

The Web site said the legality of marriage documents in the other localities, including New Paltz, is "still unresolved at the state level."

New York state officials, including Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and Gov. George Pataki, have said same-sex ceremonies violate state law. Several lawsuits challenging the law are pending, and New York's highest court, the Court of Appeals, is widely expected to make the ultimate decision on the legality of gay marriage in the state.

Residents in New Paltz are confused why Social Security officials are targeting heterosexual marriage licenses from their town.

Dan Wilen, New Paltz's town supervisor, said the agency never contacted town officials to inform them that the certificates would not be recognized. He called the policy unfair.

"They're delving into every aspect of our lives, including marriage," he said. "I'm appalled."


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Massachusetts; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: caught; gay; heterosexuals; homosexualagenda; marriage; newpaltz; samesexmarriage; ssa; ssue
I KNEW IT!
1 posted on 12/20/2004 6:34:16 PM PST by crushelits
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To: crushelits

Multnomah County and New Palz have been resolved .. SS is now accepting documentation from those.


2 posted on 12/20/2004 6:38:12 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: crushelits

>>Dan Wilen, New Paltz's town supervisor,(snip)

"They're delving into every aspect of our lives, including marriage," he said. "I'm appalled."<<

Bend over, Sweetheart and let me take a closer look.

Sir, You are not Mrs. Wilen! You are a perfect a-hole.


3 posted on 12/20/2004 6:41:13 PM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: crushelits

Why in the h*ll is the social security administration accepting civil union documents from Vermont?
Are those people eligible for benefits via civil unions?
This is outrageous....


4 posted on 12/20/2004 6:49:53 PM PST by JRochelle
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To: crushelits
I KNEW IT!

SMARTY PANTS !!!

5 posted on 12/20/2004 7:02:09 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: crushelits

What is interesting is that mayor of New Paltz had no authority to issue marriage certificates, and did not do so.

The Town Clerk of New Paltz, who did have such an authority, obeyed the law and issued certificates to heterosexual couples only.


6 posted on 12/20/2004 7:20:29 PM PST by proxy_user
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ping to me.


7 posted on 12/20/2004 7:26:40 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: crushelits

what a mess.


8 posted on 12/20/2004 8:57:23 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: Travis McGee; B4Ranch

One of my ideas, although I don't know that the SS administration took it from me. It's bloody obvious I think.


9 posted on 12/20/2004 9:52:59 PM PST by risk
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To: JRochelle
"Why in the h*ll is the social security administration accepting civil union documents from Vermont?
Are those people eligible for benefits via civil unions?
This is outrageous...."

No it's not. Civil Unions are, despite what this article seems to imply, the same thing as marriage. While they do entitle Vermontians who enter into them certain marriage-esque benefits, there are many benefits that are left marriage-only. And keep in mind, that's on the state level - unless I'm mistaken, on the Federal level, Civil Unions entitle one to no benefits at all, really.

Also, despite common public perception, Civil Unions are NOT simply same-sex affairs, though most of the people entering into them are. Civil Unions are open to any couple of any gender(s).

Civil Unions are not marriage, they are a related, but still quite different, state-only institution, which I recall even GWB said he supported at one point (in order to at least quiet down all the furor over his opinion of full-fledged same-sex marriages). Please get your facts straight before you reply to something like this next time.

That said... it was still absolutely abhorrent for them not to except ANY marriage licenses at all in those areas, simply because of a few mayors' decisions.

More proof that the SSA sucks (if you'll pardon my crude language).

-Runa
10 posted on 12/20/2004 10:42:29 PM PST by runa27
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To: B4Ranch

They queered the deal for everybody.


11 posted on 12/20/2004 10:57:26 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Some tricks stink and some don't.


12 posted on 12/20/2004 11:03:08 PM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: B4Ranch

I think I've exceeded my quota for homo humor.


13 posted on 12/20/2004 11:21:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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