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Let's not forget the new cafe-bar on the dome of St. Peter's Basilica. TRUE!!!

St Peter's opens "basilica bar"

Mon Dec 20, 8:58 AM ET

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The view is hard to beat, the atmosphere can be, well, heavenly, and the coffee isn't bad either. St Peter's Basilica now has its own rooftop coffee bar.

The bar on the roof of Christendom's largest church opened several months ago without fanfare but even many Vatican (news - web sites) officials and employees did not know about it until Monday when an Italian paper splashed the "discovery" on its front page.

Located on the terrace at the base of the cupola designed by Michelangelo, it commands a breathtaking view of St Peter's Square all the way to the Tiber River and beyond.

It is open to tourists who have already visited the top of Michelangelo's dome and who want to stop for a coffee or soft drink on their way back down to earth.

The bar does not have a name -- the sign over its entrance reads only "Ristoro/Refreshment" -- but an Italian newspaper dubbed it "The Holy Apostolic Cafeteria."

An engraved sign on a terrace wall reminds visitors to consume the drinks before continuing their visit to the basilica. And while the spirit of the place may be there, spirits are not. Unlike its counterparts in Italy, the basilica bar does not serve alcoholic beverages.

225 posted on 12/21/2004 8:18:59 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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Question: How can a canonization be infallible and not be a "new revelation" ???? Revelation closed with the death of John the Apostle. We can know that Our Lady had already been assumed by then, Hence the dogma of the Assumption can't be denied. Notice that we don't have a "canonization" for Our Lady. She is a part of revelation.

Her apparitions however are not. For the same reason cited. Revelation closed.

What is infallible is that there are saints in Heaven. Our Lady, St. Stephen, all of those who he (Our Lord) claimed when he descended into Hell. With that we are obliged infallibly to believe in is the "communion of saints" but that does not make papal canonizations infallible.


226 posted on 12/21/2004 9:49:04 PM PST by Gerard.P (If you've lost your faith, you don't know you've lost it. ---Fr. Malachi Martin R.I.P.)
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