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Soldier who trained WWII Comanche code talkers dies at 86
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 12/20 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/20/2004 1:10:47 PM PST by Willie Green

DOYLESTOWN, Pa. (AP) -- Retired Major Gen. Hugh F. Foster Jr., who trained Comanche code talkers for the Army in World War II, has died. He was 86.

Foster, of Doylestown Township, died Dec. 13 at home.

After graduating from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., in 1941, he joined the 4th Signal Company of the 4th Infantry Division, responsible for maintaining Army communications. He was assigned in September 1941 to train 17 Comanche soldiers as code talkers at Fort Benning, Ga.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanindians; codetalkers; comanchecodetalkers; navajocodetalkers; obituary; veteran; wwii
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1 posted on 12/20/2004 1:10:48 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Code Talkers Ping!


2 posted on 12/20/2004 1:13:07 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("Just because you were born stupid doesn't give you any right to be stupid!" - Paul Watson to Makahs)
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To: Willie Green

They did a great job. All the Japanese code breakers could do was listen.


3 posted on 12/20/2004 1:15:49 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Willie Green

That must have been very interesting work. I doubt the Commanche language itself has many words for things like tanks, 88MM guns, ME-109s etc. You'd almost have to create a unique dialect.


4 posted on 12/20/2004 1:16:41 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: ProudVet77

They did..there are several excellent books about the code talkers..sadly..the movie a few years ago was awful..just the absolute pits..


5 posted on 12/20/2004 1:20:19 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050
the movie a few years ago was awful..just the absolute pits..

Sure was...I was BITTERLY disappointed because it's a fascinating story and could have been a great movie.

6 posted on 12/20/2004 1:33:10 PM PST by nina0113
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To: mainepatsfan
And as they listened, all the Imperial Japanese G-2 types in the field could (quite humorously perhaps) say among themselves must have been something like: "Hora. Mata, ano yatsu. Kore. Nani kore? Nan da!? Ano yatsu, naniwo shabetterun da??? Chikusho, kono yaro!"
7 posted on 12/20/2004 1:37:01 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR will be conservative & independent when we can "Freep" a Dem. or GOP White House on any issue)
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To: Willie Green

I thought the code talkers were Navajo.


8 posted on 12/20/2004 1:37:56 PM PST by mbynack
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To: AmericanInTokyo
sorry: (translation). "Hey, guys, listen!. It's that bastard again. Here. Listen! What the hell? That guy, what the hell's he speaking??! Why that no-good _______!"
9 posted on 12/20/2004 1:39:11 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR will be conservative & independent when we can "Freep" a Dem. or GOP White House on any issue)
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To: Willie Green

Maj Gen Foster has my utmost respect and gratitude. Thank you for posting this.


10 posted on 12/20/2004 1:39:24 PM PST by KiloLima (www.opgratitude.com = Give, you will feel better.)
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To: nina0113
It's impossible to use the words "Nicholas Cage" and "great movie " in the same sentence..

Holiday today is making war movies more like sci-fi..look at "Pearl Harbor"..what a piece of drek

11 posted on 12/20/2004 1:39:46 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: Willie Green

Disregard. I read the article. I had only heard of the Navajo code talkers in the Pacific. I never knew that they used them in Europe, too.


12 posted on 12/20/2004 1:39:52 PM PST by mbynack
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To: ken5050

It was an awful movie. The dumbest part was when one of the codetalkers put on a Japanese uniform and went over behind their lines.


13 posted on 12/20/2004 1:40:09 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The best part was it wasn't like the Japanese could just pick a book on the language in downtown Tokyo or anywhere else for that matter!


14 posted on 12/20/2004 1:41:50 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mbynack

I saw one of the last surviving Comanche code talkers a few years ago in Oklahoma. He was a real gentleman.


15 posted on 12/20/2004 1:42:34 PM PST by Tax-chick (Keep Christ in Christmas starting at sundown on December 24!)
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To: ken5050

The movie "Pearl Harbor" was an insult to the people who went through the attack.


16 posted on 12/20/2004 1:42:55 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

I'm trying to figure out the NFL AFC playoff possibilities for my beloved Jets..If they lose both games..and the Bills win out..and there is another 10-6 team..the Jets lose the tiebreaker..because you can't have 2 wild card teams from the same group..


17 posted on 12/20/2004 1:44:50 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: ProudVet77
That must have been very interesting work. I doubt the Commanche language itself has many words for things like tanks, 88MM guns, ME-109s etc. You'd almost have to create a unique dialect.

That's part of it. The Japanese supposedly captured some Navaho servicemen in the Philippines or on Wake Island. The Japanese had an idea that the language was some American Indian dialect, but even their Navaho captives couldn't break the code because they weren't in on the special words. I understand that the words for things were quite simple, ie. Turtle-for-Tank, Woodpecker-for-Machinegun, etc.

18 posted on 12/20/2004 1:45:28 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: ken5050

What do you mean by group?


19 posted on 12/20/2004 1:46:00 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

Japanese intelligentsia in their military apparatus, I am sure, had a fundamental knowledge of our American history and culture, enough to know that we had indigenous tribes ("Indians") who could be speaking in those languages, passing code. The problem is, they did not possess the tools to unlock that secret, or have the capabilities to even start unraveling it. I am sure they were intelligent enough to know that it was an existing language by one of our Indian tribes...but for them (and fortunately to their disadvantage), "which"??


20 posted on 12/20/2004 1:47:06 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR will be conservative & independent when we can "Freep" a Dem. or GOP White House on any issue)
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