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To: Nick Danger
So rail and rant all you want. Nothing will change.

I hope your trenchcoat is lined with asbestos.

I find the demand that all illegal aliens be kicked out of the country to be amusing. There is no political consensus to do that, nor will there be in the foreseeable future. We're not about to cast a dragnet over the entire country and demand everybody produce papers or get kicked out. Nor are we going to fine & jail employers and wrecks the agricultural industry.

The President is trying to address a serious problem seriously, and all we get are unrealistic demands and attacks on the man.

If something like the President's plan isn't adopted, we'll be left with the status quo, which is worse.

Got a spare asbestos trenchcoat?

49 posted on 12/20/2004 1:01:08 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: You Dirty Rats
Got a spare asbestos trenchcoat?

No reason for the asbestos coat.

They are a small but vocal group, although the next flame towards you, maybe in the vein that asbestos is a Mexican curse.

53 posted on 12/20/2004 1:05:20 PM PST by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: You Dirty Rats

60 posted on 12/20/2004 1:09:07 PM PST by Nick Danger (Want some wood?)
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To: You Dirty Rats
We're not about to cast a dragnet over the entire country and demand everybody produce papers or get kicked out. Nor are we going to fine & jail employers and wrecks the agricultural industry.

Why not?
Financing this illegal group and breeding them forever is a bottomless money pit.

Unless you are relying on the School fairy, the hospital fairy, the welfare system fairy, the housing fairy...
Rounding them up and deporting them, one at a time, accomplishes two things. reduces the total, and sends the signal to new illegals that we are serious.

73 posted on 12/20/2004 1:14:36 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: You Dirty Rats
The President is trying to address a serious problem seriously, and all we get are unrealistic demands and attacks on the man.

If something like the President's plan isn't adopted, we'll be left with the status quo, which is worse.

Why would Bush's immigration policy be followed when none of the previous immigration laws are followed by those that would enter illegally?

Historically, these programs have brought more illegal aliens. Just the introduction of Bush's plan created a spike in illegal alien crossings and apprehensions. If it is implemented it will create a sustained flow of illegals seeking to benefit from the "guest worker program".

86 posted on 12/20/2004 1:23:08 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: You Dirty Rats
If something like the President's plan isn't adopted, we'll be left with the status quo, which is worse.

Thats the rub. The plan will make the problem worse. Just like it got worse after Simpson Mazolli. Just like it got worse immediately after Bush first proposed his plan.

I cannot believe so many have trouble with such a simple concept - you cannot reward illegal behavior & expect it to not continue. I guess its a matter of coming at this issue with completely different perspective.

93 posted on 12/20/2004 1:27:56 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: You Dirty Rats
"I find the demand that all illegal aliens be kicked out of the country to be amusing. There is no political consensus to do that, nor will there be in the foreseeable future."

But there is "popular consensus" -- you remember -- "WE THE PEOPLE"??

I'd like to know where the "political consensus" is for our so-called "legislators" treating the US Constitution like a roll of Charmin?

Are you to the point where you are "amused" that the laws regarding sovereignty are ignored by those sworn to uphold them? Is it because you find legislators sworn only to their own personal power and agendae?

"The President is trying to address a serious problem seriously, and all we get are unrealistic demands and attacks on the man."

Oh, baloney.

The man has had four years to react accordingly after the worst security breach in US history, and he's STILL dilly-dallying as millions of unaccounted for and unregistered illegals saunter through the border onto a red carpet.

172 posted on 12/20/2004 3:55:34 PM PST by F16Fighter
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