Posted on 12/20/2004 7:41:58 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
I find it distrubing that they felt it was more of a neccessity to track legal Americans more closely than it was to deny illegals the ablity to get a drivers license at all.
These elected officials do not work for us, they work for themselves.
The liberals get snookered, we get screwed. Not exactly a fair trade-off.
Sounds like a no-brainer to me. Having "minimal standards for driver's licenes or personal identification cards issued by a State" could make voter fraud harder for the Democrats, though.
"Driver's License Rules in Intel Law Spark Outrage"
Sounds good.
This simply makes fake stuff stand out like a sore thumb.
Any suprises? None at all. The incompetent Washington government opened our borders, and they remain open. At the same time they MUST "show" the American public they are doing something about illegal immigration which continues to be supported.
First, the idea of ANY ILLEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY without being identified as such is a travesty against the people of the USA and their security. Second, UNCONTROLLED ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION must be stopped at all costs. Maybe this is a first step to getting control OVER WHO CROSSES OUR BORDERS ... let's give it a chance and see what our fine POLITICIANS in Washington come up with. Will it be effective, or just another "yank-job" on the American public???
Washington, as a whole, over the years, has ignored our borders, our soverignty, our security, the significance of U.S. citizenship, and everything needed to protect those precious freedoms. IT IS THEIR FREAKIN' JOB TO CLEAN UP THE MESS THEY CREATED!!!! HOLD THEM ACCOUNTALBE!!!
If an illegal can get a legitimate license it's not exactly fake now is it?
The terrorists that hijacked the planes obtained drivers licenses with the help of an illegal alien. They then used those licenses and the process to obtain more for the others.
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING in the supposed intelligence bill closes that loophole.
something along a similar strategy: Missouri has long had a law on the books that allows the passenger in a car to have open alcohol - as long as the driver does not have open alcohol. The Feds told Missouri that as long as that law stays on the books, then we will withold "Highway Funds" (money needed to repair roads etc.).. Budweiser lobbied hard and the law stayed on the books - and Missouri lost their Highway funds.
Conclusion: The Feds are on firm ground if they want to withold $$ because states refuse to follow minimum standards when issueing state IDs.
An illegal alien was involved to the extent that he pointed the hijackers to a DMV employee.
To much stuff is released "accidentaly" from medical offices and government offices today, but there is a remedy for that, sue their pants off.
That said, the government already has this information for most citizens, now they have the means to impel non-citizens to fess up too. The likely result of this is a decrease in illegal immigration because the illegals hate ending up on data bases. Also, maybe it will be used effectively to nab terrorists and not be used in an unconstitutional manner like setting up national check points. Furthermore, haveing the data in a centralized place makes it far more likely that it will be used to verify status at airports and ports and nail people who are not following the rules or trying to slip into the country via these routes.
Hillary did it and nobody's bitching.
Now forgers will need only meet a single standard rather than 50 different ones.
Your other issue was the one of providing drivers licenses to illegals.
This piece of legislation was probably not the best vehicle for correcting problems in that area.
First of all, the enforcement body is not part of the national intelligence apparatus.
Secondly, it's only tangentially related to immigration.
Thirdly, even trying to go at the issue head on does nothing to resolve the driver's license question. That's because anybody can get what's called an International Driver's License anywhere, and it's good for a period of use in the United States. See: http://www.idl-international.com/ for more information.
What we must do first is repudiate the portion of the treaty arrangements we have with the United Nations (and others) concerning these international drivers licenses.
Should be a simple matter, eh?!
An illegal rode in the van with them TO the DMV and went inside with them to assist with the paperwork. He was then paid after they received their licenses.
Show me where in the intelligence bill this is addressed.
All hail the Security State.
Read my tag line. Will you be sending your kids to fight and possibly die for Freedom Lite?
Not me. I pay enough in taxes. Money buys safety and prosperity. But neither are worth fighting for.
Besides, you have plenty of native born folks who would have been willing to do the exact same job for money.
The illegal in this case was gumbahs with an American citizen on the inside who worked for DMV. He didn't have to be an illegal.
We who live in Virginia addressed the issue through our courts and the state legislature. Unfortunately we also elected a Corporatist, Mark Warner as Governor, and all he wanted to do was raise taxes to try out risky social engineering schemes so we may not have all the enforcement we need.
What I'd like to know is will your proposal result in Virginia not being able to keep criminals out of the DMV? With already weak administration in the hands of Corporatists, and insertion of the CIA and DOD Intelligence administrator in the mix, do you really think we can stop even crazier stuff?
Because the security bill was a direct response to the recommendations of the 9/11 commission.
If they can address border security in the bill then they can address interior security as well.
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