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To: DustyMoment; jb6; Destro; MarMema
I have long foreseen that Putin would invoke his old USSR-KGB roots and try to return Russia to the "good old" days of the repressive Soviet-era. His attempted poisoning of Viktor Yuschenko is clear enough proof of that, but Putin has gone further. He has encouraged Russian subs to be aggressive around American warships in international waters - a clear return to the days of the Soviet era gone by.

Nonsense! You base your certanities on what is mere assumptions at best. You sound like a typical John Bircher. You have zero evidence Putin had anything to do with the poisoning of Yuschenko. My "guess" would be that the president of the Ukraine was behind the posioning.
Further, where is the evidence Russian subs are being aggressive around American warships in international waters? Simply because they are shadowing American fleets is not evidence, but simply wanting to train against the best forces.
11 posted on 12/20/2004 6:11:35 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Iris7

Ping


12 posted on 12/20/2004 6:12:38 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
Putin certainly takes all the heat. It is, I think, a combination of the average age of posters here and their refusal to let go of an outdated cold war mentality, and their complete lack of knowledge of Russia, the Russian people and the Orthodox church.
Also reminiscent feelings can be enjoyable, even if they are about the cold war.
15 posted on 12/20/2004 7:15:20 AM PST by MarMema
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To: GarySpFc
Remember too that the night of the orange thingie in Ukraine, there was a post here saying that tanks were headed from Russia to Ukraine. I don't think one poster even questioned it, for at least several pages.
It was just accepted that Putin was now going to try to take over Ukraine. I can remember how hard I was laughing, but it is really sad, I guess.

It's good to have you here with us, Gary. Ignorance is a terrible thing.

16 posted on 12/20/2004 7:18:57 AM PST by MarMema
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To: GarySpFc

That's ok, Gary, keep your head buried in the sand. Let me make another statement that you won't like - I have far more experience with Soviet intelligence and the KGB than you will ever know, and I know their tactics.

No, I will not tell you more than that.

My "assumptions" as you phrased them, are based on things that Putin has said and done since becoming President of Russia. Putin has said that he wanted to restore the "glory" of the USSR to the Russian Republic. As recently as 2 years ago, Putin went out with a herd of Russia subs and conducted a series of "war games" conducted against a simulated American enemy. This occurred after Russia and America were supposed to be forging a new, friendly relationship. And, there have been more than a few news articles reporting on the new aggressiveness of Russian warships toward American warships.

As for Putin and Yuschenko, there is no doubt in my mind that Putin was behind the poisoning of Viktor Yuschenko. It totally fits within his goals to keep as much of the former USSR under his control as he can. Yuschenko has his own ideas and will not toe the line as Pootie-Poot wants.

Don't forget, Putin has plunged a few daggers in Bush's back. The Dioxin that he tried to poison Yuschenko with is the primary ingredient of Agent Orange which was used to defoliate so many forests in Vietnam and affected so many American AND Vietnamese with terrible health problems.

You sound gullible enough to buy the oceanfront property in Kansas that I have for sale.


53 posted on 12/20/2004 5:45:54 PM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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