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1 posted on 12/19/2004 9:01:28 PM PST by Alouette
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2 posted on 12/19/2004 9:02:02 PM PST by Alouette (9 kids, 0 abortions, no kidding)
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To: Alouette

http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2004/12/19/pay-back-time-for-jewish-supporters-of-the-president/#more-51


3 posted on 12/19/2004 9:05:35 PM PST by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: Alouette
Alan Dershowitz, a Jew who never hides his identity, told me when I congratulated him on lighting the menora in Harvard Yard: "It's private property. I'm still opposed to the menora on publicly-owned property."

The how come we have to hear his point of view in public owned court rooms.

A display, a speech, they are the same Alan.

4 posted on 12/19/2004 9:08:56 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Alouette; Thinkin' Gal

Why are they stealing the h from our menorahs?


5 posted on 12/19/2004 9:13:54 PM PST by dighton
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To: Alouette

Our Christian friends need to have the courage to stand up to the Left which says faith has no place in the public square. Its about time to push back the ACLU's decades long assault upon religious freedom in America.


6 posted on 12/19/2004 9:19:12 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Alouette
"Why put up the menora? You will wake up anti-Semitism.

That is one sick person. The biggest blessing God has given us in this country is our ability to blend, the melting pot.

I live in a Jewish neighborhood that respects my Christianity as I respect their Judaisms. That's the way it should be. It's actually fun to be invited to partake in their Chanukah and invite my Jewish friends to be part of my Christmas.

I'm envious of the food they serve, their envious of how decorate my house! All in all we all have a hoot!

9 posted on 12/19/2004 9:45:17 PM PST by lizma
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"Shhh, let's not make too much noise."

Yes I do believe that is it. And I cannot say I blame them entirely, these are mostly the 1st generation born after the Holocaust. They don't want to draw attention to themselves.

But, they are losing the essence of being Jewish in the process of hiding it. No need to fear, what will be will be. Meanwhile, live as you are and do good deeds.

14 posted on 12/19/2004 11:05:06 PM PST by monkeyshine
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15 posted on 12/19/2004 11:22:02 PM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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Some people don't want signs of Christmas; some don't want signs of Chanuka.

The real question is: Can a person - or SHOULD a person - keep his spiritual identity separate from his public or civic identity?

I think the questions is answer at the end of the article.

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16 posted on 12/19/2004 11:29:05 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: Alouette

Chabad has definitely been the leader in getting Menorah's in public places. I've seen this through the years. If nothing else, this is good for Jewish children who feel left out at Christmas time.


17 posted on 12/19/2004 11:34:55 PM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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To: Alouette
One retired lawyer, who had grown up in the depression, said, "Why put up the menora? You will wake up anti-Semitism." The rest, mostly younger, did not share his view.

Come Christmas time, the scummy ACLU with it's secular Jewish lawyers wakes up anti Semitism. Right or wrong, the ACLU is perceived as Jewish outfit that is a prime mover removing public Christianity and promoting homosexuality and atheism to replace it

19 posted on 12/19/2004 11:41:25 PM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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"Okay... This is a song that uhh.. There's a lot of Christmas songs out there and uhh.. not too many Hanukkah songs. So uhh...I wrote a song for all those nice little Jewish kids who don't get to hear any Hanukkah songs. Here we go..."

Put on your yarmulke,
Here comes Hanukkah!
So much funukah,
To celebrate Hanukkah!
Hanukkah is the festival of lights.
Instead of one day of presents, we have eight crazy nights.

When you feel like the only kid in town
Without a Christmas tree,
Here's a list of people who are Jewish just like you and me:

David Lee Roth lights the menorah.
So do James Caan, Kirk Douglas, and the late Dinah Shore-ah.

Guess who eats together at the Carnegie Deli?
Bowser from Sha Na Na and Arthur Fonzarelli!
Paul Newman's half Jewish, Goldie Hawn's half too.
Put them together, what a fine lookin' Jew.

You don't need "Deck The Halls" or "Jingle Bell Rock",
'Cause you can spin a dreidel with Captain Kirk
and Mr. Spock -- both Jewish.

Put on your yarmulke
It's time for Hanukkah
The owner of the Seattle Supersonicahs
Celebrates Hanukkah

O.J. Simpson - not a Jew.
But guess who is? Hall of famer Rod Carew -- he converted
We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby.
Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish -- not too shabby!

Some people think that Ebenezer Scrooge is
Well he's not, but guess who is -- All Three Stooges!
So many Jews are in showbiz,
Tom Cruise isn't - but I heard his agent is.

Tell your friend Veronica
It's time to celebrate Hanukkah.
I hope I get a harmonicah
Oh this lovely, lovely Hanukkah.
So drink your gin and tonicah
And smoke your marijuanikah.
If you really, really wannakah
Have a happy, happy, happy, happy Hanukkah!
Happy Hanukkah!"


20 posted on 12/19/2004 11:43:26 PM PST by RichInOC (...you don't have to be Jewish to like Adam Sandler.)
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To: Alouette
As historian Charles Silberman described almost 20 years ago in his book A Certain People, the dominant attitude in modern Jewish life when he was growing up was, "Shhh, let's not make too much noise."

Sheesh. Few things bring a smile like loud, happy, Jewish noise.

21 posted on 12/19/2004 11:45:24 PM PST by Fatalis
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Did you ever notice that it is the trendy leftist "multiculturists" who are offended whenever Jews practice Jewish traditions and Christians practice Christian traditions? You have different communities of faith that are not "offended" by one-another and then step in angry "multiculturists" who claim they are "offended" thanks to their superior "sensitivity" and then the "multiculturists" demand that Jews stop being Jews, Christians stop being Christians, etc.


27 posted on 12/20/2004 2:02:29 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Alouette

The reason some Jews want to keep menorahs off of public property is very simple -- if a menorah is acceptable, why not a creche? They are so determined to bar expressions of Christianity on public property that they are willing to bar expressions of Judaism, as well. At least they are being consistent. A "holiday" tree may be tolerated, though.


28 posted on 12/20/2004 4:07:55 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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Well, here is one Christian that does not, repeat, does not find a public display of the menorah offensive, whether it is in the public square or in someone's yard. I wish all these "sensitive" "multiculturalists" who get "offended" when someone breaks wind the wrong way would hush up and go get a life! They want to try and remove God from everything except maybe in the private home or specific religious building (as long as no public displays). Feh, bunch of no-count carpetbaggers trying to finish Lenin's work for him! I'm still waiting to see if the ACLU and similar nests of vipers start kicking up a fuss when a Muslim display is put in a public place. Dollars to donuts I'll greatly age while I wait. It is only Christianity and Judaism that the ACLU and similar rodents want to silence.


29 posted on 12/20/2004 4:48:22 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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32 posted on 12/20/2004 5:32:10 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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re: "Shhh, let's not make too much noise." )))

LOL! Oh, please. Let's not make too much noise, we're too humble and modest, but let's sue the hell out of this municipality? Again, please.

This has been a season of unprecedented cynicism, so I'll add my own cynical take--these litigious organizations oppose the menorah display because they need a legal ground to oppose any display of Christian symbols. And Christians hope that having menorahs displayed may bring more tolerance for Christian displays. We'll see how it all shakes out--and shakes down in court.

33 posted on 12/20/2004 6:40:59 AM PST by Mamzelle
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Alan Dershowitz, a Jew who never hides his identity, told me when I congratulated him on lighting the menora in Harvard Yard: "It's private property. I'm still opposed to the menora on publicly-owned property."

Still a schmuck I see.

36 posted on 12/20/2004 8:23:34 AM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: Alouette
One retired lawyer, who had grown up in the depression, said, "Why put up the menora? You will wake up anti-Semitism."

The real reason: It will make it harder for my fellow ACLU lawyers to sue to stop Christmas symbols in public

42 posted on 12/20/2004 4:59:04 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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