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San Francisco Considers Handgun Ban (Anti's love this'innovative' plan)
Join Together. ^ | 12-17-04 | Dick Dahl

Posted on 12/19/2004 6:14:47 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

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To: whereasandsoforth

LMAO!!


21 posted on 12/19/2004 7:09:50 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Dan from Michigan
i wonder if they will use the permit lists???

hello... we're form the government and we're here to help pick up your guns!!!

keep telling yourself it's just a dream, it's just a dream...

22 posted on 12/19/2004 7:20:48 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - Dubya... F**K YEAH!!!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp; mhx; charwel; dcbayarea; rogue yam; ßuddaßudd; risk; sasquatch; Gal.5:1; ..
One of our Supervisors, Matt Gonzales, graffiti'd the walls in his City Hall office recently. Just so you what kind of morons we're dealing with.


does he want to smash the state after they use the state to confiscate our guns? I don't get it...



23 posted on 12/19/2004 8:09:10 PM PST by Citizen James (Well done is better than well said - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Citizen James; Susannah; Saundra Duffy; calcowgirl; farmfriend; B4Ranch

San Francisco is an example the whole United States should well observe. Mix up the agendas of socialist, anti-American, homosexual, multiculturalist, anarchist, lawless (except where property confiscation and critic silencing is supported), and anti-business whackos. Put the power of the city behind them. Put the power of the county behind them. What do you get?

An ugly vision of western civilization's declining future, is what you get. Whatever way we can go wrong, will go wrong here in SF.


24 posted on 12/19/2004 8:15:32 PM PST by risk
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To: Dan from Michigan

Residents will be able to get mugged and killed without having to put with a lot of noise. Danged noise polution, anyhow. Progress!! Progress, I say, Watson!


25 posted on 12/19/2004 8:32:29 PM PST by Waco
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To: Dan from Michigan

Maybe we should encourage them to ban all weapons. That is, if it won't get through airport security, it's illegal. Then let's watch the fun.


26 posted on 12/19/2004 8:38:28 PM PST by freedom_forge
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To: Dan from Michigan

Great idea. It's why New York and Washington D.C. are the safest cities in America.


27 posted on 12/19/2004 8:58:52 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: risk

Every day is like a bad dream.


28 posted on 12/19/2004 9:23:26 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Dan from Michigan

Gaaahh ... I would just grit my teeth and ignore this happy nonsense, except that I live only an hour from San Francisco, and where Big Mama Duck leads, our local city council baby ducks eventually want to follow. If they get this ban through in SF, I'm sure it will be a matter of time until it's proposed locally. (Not to mention in many other cities around the country!)

We don't even OWN a gun, except for one rifle that is a family heirloom. But I'm thinking it's time for me to join or make a contribution to the NRA. (My dad is a lifetime member -- he'll be happy to hear that I'm thinking about that! :)


29 posted on 12/19/2004 9:51:05 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
This is a heads up to all of us - even in 'safe states' from this stuff.

I joined the NRA before I owned a gun. (I have five now) To me it's a freedom issue more than the guns themselves.

That said, the feds (Ted Kennedy to be specific) last year tried to ban .30-30 ammunition (all centerfire ammo really) so that heirloom is a target. My two sinators Carl Lenin and Debbie Stab-me-now both quietly voted for it. Lenin's an anti and is up front about it. Debbie says she's 'pro-hunting'.

In Illinois, they went after shotguns and muzzleloaders under the guise of a .50 caliber ban.

30 posted on 12/19/2004 10:05:04 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: Dan from Michigan
prohibit the ownership of handguns by everyone except law-enforcement officers, members of the military, or security personnel.

I wonder if this could be challenged as a violation of the U.S. Constitution. Even apart from the Second Amendment, it seems to me that a law allowing handguns only to certain people and not others violates the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

31 posted on 12/19/2004 10:08:39 PM PST by Dave Olson
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To: Dan from Michigan

Didn't feinstein pack a piece (I mean carry a rod, I mean carry a gun) when she was mayorette of Sodom, I mean San francisco?


32 posted on 12/19/2004 10:12:34 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert; Joe Brower; Saundra Duffy; Travis McGee; neverdem; Alouette; rdb3; mhking
But I'm thinking it's time for me to join or make a contribution to the NRA.

Glad to hear it, Hetty. Look into Gun Owners of America (California branch) or Jews for the Protection of Firearms Ownership, too (they don't mind if you're not Jewish). Saundra Duffy can connect you with the Second Amendment Sisters here in northern Kali. You know this whole business is racist. They're mainly thinking of right-wing white males like me and "gangster" blacks across the bay over in Oakland. Can't have those uppity honkies and blacks packing heat, now can we? Well what about the grandmother who wants to protect her children and their children from the drug dealers in the neighborhood? Fat chance, lady.


33 posted on 12/19/2004 10:36:50 PM PST by risk
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To: ozzymandus

YEP. I think she even was deputized or something so she could carry in DC as well.


34 posted on 12/19/2004 11:05:52 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: Badray; Dan from Michigan
The study refered to was published in The New England Journal of Medicine in 1991. It was done by Colin Loftin. (The NEJM is rabidly anti-gun.)

It is not the infamous Arthur Kellerman study, which was of Seattle, not Washington, D.C.

The Loftin study compared the number of murders in Washington, D.C. (which decreased), where the handgun ban was in force, to the surrounding counties in Maryland and Virginia (which increased), both before and after the D.C. handgun ban went into effect. Notice that I said "number of murders," not murder rates. The study ignored the fact that the population of D.C. declined during the study period, and the population of the surrounding counties increased during that same period. When murder rates in these areas were compared the ban shows no effect.

There are several other defects in the study as well, e.g., the study period ended just before the crack epidemic caused murder rates to soar in D.C., even though those data were available at the time the study was done.

35 posted on 12/19/2004 11:50:22 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven?)
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To: flashbunny
"I sure hope they don't let the fact that this has failed every time it's been tried discourage them."

They won't. Newsome and the board of supes have been crazy enough to drive business out of town and they're crazy enough to drive the crime rate up too.

36 posted on 12/19/2004 11:56:26 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: Citizen James

I'll bet Hunter McPherson thought:
'Now, if only we had a handgun ban in place, this guy wouldn't kill me.
Rats.'


37 posted on 12/20/2004 5:23:59 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: calcowgirl; Travis McGee; Dr. Marten; B4Ranch; tallhappy; Joe Brower; Carry_Okie; farmfriend
Before his latest detention, Wei insisted that he was not afraid of being sent to prison again. "Most people wait until others are standing to make their move, very few people are willing to stand up first or stand alone," he told an interviewer just days before he disappeared again. "That's why my friends call me a fool!" Did he have regrets about the official reactions to his outspokenness? "I think what I did was worthwhile," he said. --Introducing Wei Jingsheng: A Chinese Voice of Conscience (Serving 14 years for criticizing the state.)

The city is betting on the behavior Wei Jingsheng laments among Frisco gun owners.

38 posted on 12/20/2004 9:33:14 AM PST by risk
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To: risk

When Governments want to ban guns, it's because they fear the people they serve.


39 posted on 12/20/2004 8:46:42 PM PST by Dr. Marten
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