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France: Nurse beheaded in mental hospital, second nurse savagely stabbed to death
News.Com.AU ^ | December 19, 2004 | staff writer

Posted on 12/18/2004 8:20:37 PM PST by yankeedame

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To: yankeedame

21st Century meets Murder in the Rue Morgue.


21 posted on 12/19/2004 6:28:19 AM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: BunnySlippers
LOL!!

'Put ze candle down.'

22 posted on 12/19/2004 6:32:14 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: drt1
Where were the other 1198 staff while this hideous violence was going on?

LOL. Could it be that not all 1198 people work at the same time? Perhaps not all the employees work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You know, like, maybe they work shifts or somethin'.

23 posted on 12/19/2004 6:34:54 AM PST by johniegrad
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True, but you would expect that maybe 20-30 (Or more) would be on duty and would be aware of a multi room crime scene and unauthorized, beak-in entry of 4-5 drunk street people.

It was just a cheap hit by me on the French anyway - No real logic intended. :-)

24 posted on 12/19/2004 6:42:41 AM PST by drt1
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To: small voice in the wilderness
'Put ze candle down.'

Actually, the British use the word 'torch' instead of 'flashlight' like Americans.

25 posted on 12/19/2004 6:45:57 AM PST by Bon mots
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"Where were the other 1198 staff while this hideous violence was going on? "

200 housekeepers on break or off

4 security guards on a smoke break

300 administative staff- nowhere near the patient care area

200 grounds keepers

250 dietary workers

30 maintainance workers- on holiday

100 nurse managers- at a conference in Nice

50 nurses called in faility wide

62 other actual nurses divided by three shifts

the other nurse was on smoke break


26 posted on 12/19/2004 6:50:01 AM PST by American Vet Repairman (If I am not liked, I will accept respected, if not respected then all I care is that I am feared.)
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To: drt1
Just teasing.

As you have pointed out, the important consideration is what the staffing levels were for the patient load.

I am a psychiatrist and part of my job is taking care of large numbers of inpatients on an acute care mental health unit in northern Minnesota. People in these settings are capable of monstrous behaviors and need to be adequately supervised. Clearly there are security issues on any unit where psychiatric patients have access to anything capable of being used in a decapitation.

As an aside, several years ago, I was so angry at our administration about issues within our department, that I interviewed for jobs in a foreign country with a socialized health care system. Within the previous year, there had been two completed suicides on the foreign unit security hospital setting. In eighteen years, there had never been a suicide on my units. We dealt with vastly higher numbers of more disturbed patients than they did. There problems were obvious to me and were directly related to physical plant design and to staffing levels.

27 posted on 12/19/2004 6:53:44 AM PST by johniegrad
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Thanks. Yes - It would seem that supervision at such a facility would, of necessity, be pretty intense and on a 24/7 basis. The fact that this act was perpetrated by intruders speaks volumes about security and supervision.

If the act had been committed by an inmate it would still be damning but the fact that a number of what appears to be out-of-place bums could break windows, slaughter two nurses and leave - And the crime not be discovered until staff arrived for shift change is scary.

Makes one wonder what the patients are able to do to themselves or other patients in the midst of such obvious out of control supervision.

28 posted on 12/19/2004 7:02:31 AM PST by drt1
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To: American Vet Repairman
That's about right. In France the work week BY LAW is only 35 hours with 8 weeks paid vacation. Socialized medical staffs spend their lives avoiding work and avoiding patients. I know, I've spoken in depth to many.

Also, Europeans are all on phony disability anyway, so the staffing numbers are completely bogus.

29 posted on 12/19/2004 7:17:14 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: yankeedame

THis sounds like a scene from Halloween II.


30 posted on 12/19/2004 7:29:45 AM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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