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To: FITZ
The bloody revolution is the fault of the elites being unwilling to change their corrupt system --- and why should they when it makes them very very wealthy and they've convinced us they can dump all their social problems onto us?

I don't see the Mexicans coming to America to work as a problem Mexico dumped on us. I see workers fleeing Mexico to work here as a net gain for the US.

The recent lynchings in Mexico City and exploding crime rate in Mexico should make us all realize the revolution isn't being prevented by us having open borders and our leaders allowing unlimited immigration from that country

Maybe not, not but some families might be saved. I believe America has always been a safe haven for the unwanted of the world before.

488 posted on 12/20/2004 2:04:30 AM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: Once-Ler
The current way is actually making Mexico worse --- many illegals have abandoned wives and girlfriends and their children --- Mexico has a growing problem with street children. Many villages have been emptied of their working age men and women and all that's left are the elderly and young --- who are either abandoned or exist on money wired in from the USA or will also be smuggled to exist on welfare programs in the USA. Mexico isn't building a future for it's poor in Mexico --- so unlimited immigration will be it's only solution --- until they have totally saturated all areas of the USA --- and then the inevitable will happen --- and that could be soon. I won't insult you because you live in Wisconsin --- but if you lived in another area where the English language has pretty much been replaced, and your neighborhood has now become surrounded with third-world colonias and your hospital is on a financial brink --- except for the federal money being sent in to keep it afloat and you are in the minority as far as being insured --- for health or auto liability, then I think your opinion could be different.

Even Mexicans here complain about how much like Mexico we've become --- and everyone knows if the welfare handouts from Washington were to slow up, this area would be a disaster --- probably with a lot of violence.

It's like anything --- we're all influenced by what we see first hand --- I can pass by a field of old men working hard in the hot sun --- and my opinions for that day are softened, but then I read about a drive-by shooting in my neighborhood or talk to kids (hispanic) who have been jumped by the gangs and are afraid to go out at night and then my opinions change again. Or when I drive through the areas --- which is almost everyplace now and see the iron bars over all windows and doors and the high fences everyone is putting up --- and I don't like the Mexicanization of this area.

517 posted on 12/20/2004 5:34:23 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Once-Ler
I don't see the Mexicans coming to America to work as a problem Mexico dumped on us. I see workers fleeing Mexico to work here as a net gain for the US.

This is the problem, it is not a net gain. If you lived on the border you would see this. It's terribly unfortunate that you are going to have to experience the crime, disease and other pleasantries brought on by illegal immigration to really understand this probalme.

529 posted on 12/20/2004 8:32:43 AM PST by Ajnin
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