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Two county deputies shot, along with suspect (Two ARIZONA COPS shot by ILLEGAL ALIEN!!!)
East Valley Tribune ^ | 12/17/2004 | Kim Smith and Kristina Davis

Posted on 12/18/2004 6:45:29 PM PST by nanak

Two Maricopa County sheriff's deputies were shot Thursday during the serving of a search warrant in east Mesa. A suspect was shot by a third deputy.

Deputy Sean Pearce, who is the son of Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, was shot in the abdomen. He was flown to Maricopa Medical Center in Phoenix, where he underwent surgery to remove part of his large intestine. Deputy Lew Argetsinger was shot in the hand and taken by ambulance to the medical center. Both were stable.

The suspect, Jorge Luis Guerra Vargas, 22, was flown to Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center in Phoenix with nonlife-threatening facial injuries.

According to authorities, detectives with the Pinal County Sheriff's Office wanted to execute a search warrant at the mobile home of a homicide’s investigative lead, but asked Maricopa County SWAT team members to enter first to ensure their safety.

Lt. Dave Trombi said seven members of the team knocked on the door at 111 S. 91st Way at 6:35 a.m., announced their presence in English and Spanish, then broke through the door. They were a short distance inside when a subject opened fire.

Both deputies shot were wearing ballistic body armor, but Pearce was struck in an unprotected spot, Trombi said.

A third deputy returned fire on GuerraVargas, who was alone in the home, Trombi said.

Pinal County Sheriff's Office spokesman Mike Minter said detectives had hoped to obtain evidence pertaining to a recent homicide in Hewlitt Station, a community near Queen Valley.

A hunter called deputies Dec. 5 after he found a body with a gunshot wound to the head buried under a pile of scrap lumber, Minter said.

Investigators found fresh tire tracks on the scene, and the clue led authorities to the mobile home.

Esteban Soto, the investigative lead in the case, was found Thursday in New Mexico and is being detained for questioning there.

Deputies are still working to identify the body, which is described as a 20- to 25-year-old Hispanic male.

Pearce has been on the force for 11 years, Deputy Argetsinger for three years.

Rep. Pearce, said he was in Washington, D.C., testifying on an immigration panel when he was told his son had been shot.

"He is feisty. He will do well," he said. "I guarantee that the moment he is allowed back, he will put that uniform on and be out there doing police work."

Russell Pearce also was shot in the chest and hand in the line of duty about 20 years ago while chasing gang members in Guadalupe.

Efforts to contact Argetsinger's family were unsuccessful.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; leo; pearce
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To: cyncooper

It's difficult to understand what you think. Go ahead, tell us. I'm out of here to take my "chill pill".


261 posted on 12/19/2004 2:02:55 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: cyncooper
As I said, evidently you (along with several of your compadres on this thread) have a severe comprehension problem and it appears that those who like to instruct others on how to read a thread need to review how it's done themselves. I was echoing a point made by the other poster and not accusing him of anything. Sorry you don't understand English (still and always will be the primary language of the land).

meow meow meow meow meow meow

In cyncooper's dictionary, NATIONALISTS = ILLITERATE RACISTS/XENOPHOBES, LaRaza/Maldef/La Voz de Aztlan = DIVERSITY

Any other one line masterpiece from your GREAT INTELLECTS?

262 posted on 12/19/2004 2:03:12 PM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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To: Ajnin
How many times does it have to be explained to you that there is illegal immigration and illegal immigration?

It's OK Ajnin, now I see the distinction between "illegal immigration and illegal immigration." Thanks for pointing it out.

263 posted on 12/19/2004 2:03:16 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: cyncooper; Max Combined
You are way out of bounds in the rude way you are addressing me. I don't need your instruction on how posting and reading of threads is done and furthermore I have no respect for you and don't care two figs for what you might think on any subject.

Hmm...the just WHY are you on FR?

When FR is supposed to be for the exchange of CONSERVATIVE ideas....what you are expounding is the destruction of our society for cheap gardeners and Nannies, and artificially deflated labor costs (but you NEVER address the cost in Emergency services...schooling...public services...VOTING!!!!)...YOU and your ilk are way out of line...and IM(NSH)O, the ones that have EARNED our disrespect, and we no longer give "two figs" what RINOOBL's have to say!

The MOMENT you morons open your yaps, and call WE who believe in ENFORCEMENT of the LAW, and the securing of our borders from ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS "racist and anti-immigrant"...is the EXACT moment you reveal yourselves as Anti-Conservative principles!

In case your intellect wasn't able to grasp this...it is the equivalent of the "Nazi" principle in an argument...you IMMEDIATELY lose upon calling us the names!

264 posted on 12/19/2004 2:05:59 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: Max Combined
Why do you seek to put words in his mouth?

How can I put words into anyones mouth, when my sentences started with "It sounds to me like..." The words I use have meaning, and the words I used explain how I perceive things.

265 posted on 12/19/2004 2:06:11 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: nanak

What are you talking about? I don't use the words "nationalists", etc. Why oh why do you keep pretending I did or do?

As to intellect, it's plain mine towers over yours by miles.


266 posted on 12/19/2004 2:06:23 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Once-Ler

Good to see you are still the net's English teacher.


267 posted on 12/19/2004 2:07:39 PM PST by investigateworld (( Only a small imagination prevents spelling words more than one way. ))
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To: All; Max Combined; cyncooper; Dane

Every immigration thread that has ever been posted has pretty much gone down the same name calling, inane, insipid insulting road.

My reaction:
Thank you Freepers for delaying border control discussion until after Nov. 2


268 posted on 12/19/2004 2:08:02 PM PST by staytrue (Thank you Freepers for delaying border control discussion until after Nov. 2)
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To: devolve
See my Post 141.

I believe we are on the same page.

269 posted on 12/19/2004 2:08:36 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: Itzlzha

You accuse me of saying something I did not, from there you launch an unwarranted attack based upon these mythical statements.

Then you consider yourself the smarter of we two?

LOL

Check again, I didn't advocate for gardeners and nannies and whatever else you dreamed up in your fevered brain. In fact, I stated explicitly that I am against illegal immigration and wish strict enforcement of the law. I hope that was put simply enough.


270 posted on 12/19/2004 2:11:11 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Dane
Uh get back to me Fatlais, when ted kennedy, endorses Bush's guest worker plan, ok.

Counting down -- 10, 9, 8...

Bush Voices Support For Guest Worker Bill
- August 10, 2003

President Bush met in Tucson this week with the two authors of the Border Security and Immigration Improvement Act, Senator John McCain and Representative Jim Kolbe, both Republicans of Arizona.

The Act would allow millions of guest workers to live and work in the United States with temporary visas, including illegal immigrants already in the country.

Supporters of the bill say the legislation will reduce migrant deaths along the US-Mexico border and provide a supply of low-skilled labor to employers across the nation.

The President said he supported the controversial bill during talks with the legislators, with whom he also addressed the nation's forest fire policy.

"The president was enthusiastic about the bill," Rep. Kolbe told the Tucson Citizen. "He is supportive and told us to take the legislation up with his staff."


Signs of movement on migrants
- September 6, 2003

Continuing weakness in the U.S. economy has not deterred immigration-reform backers, who range from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.).

"Whether we are in the middle of a jobless recovery or not, Americans are not taking these jobs," said Rep. Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz.), co-author of an immigration-reform bill with McCain. "They are not interested in turning down beds at hotels and working in the fields."

A major hurdle to the reform effort looms in the GOP-controlled House, where key lawmakers oppose liberalizing immigration policy. They argue that any sort of amnesty would only encourage more illegal immigration. And they say the country needs to restrain immigration until post-Sept. 11 security measures are fully worked out.

"On immigration, the House has more political minefields than the Senate does," said Randel K. Johnson, a senior lobbyist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

Reform advocates say that could change if Bush weighs in on their side. "We need to have presidential leadership to move this debate forward," said Kolbe.

...

But Kolbe said he and McCain personally lobbied Bush this summer on their bill and he seemed open to the proposal.

"I'm not saying he endorsed our legislation, but he expressed support for many of the principles involved," said Kolbe. "He agrees that this is an issue we need to debate."


Bush Amnesty Plan Raises Immigration Concerns
January 8, 2004

The initiative, which draws heavily on legislation already introduced in Congress by three Arizona Republicans, Sen. John McCain and Rep. Jeff Flake and Rep. Jim Kolbe, has two central components. It would provide a mechanism by which some U.S. businesses would be able to import an unlimited number of low-wage foreign workers, and it would allow most of the roughly 10 million illegal aliens already in the United States a means by which they (and their extended families) would be able to remain legally -- and permanently -- in the United States.


Immigration law reform to be an `important item' in Bush's second term
- Nov. 19, 2004

"It's one of those legacy issues that can help define a presidency," said a Bush campaign adviser familiar with the Bush-McCain meeting.

"It's early in this," the adviser said, speaking on the condition of anonymity, warning of untold pitfalls ahead. "There are people opposed to it on the left and the right."

Still, the adviser indicated McCain would be the "lead carrier" of Bush's proposal next year in Congress.

One congressional avenue being explored by various parties is partnering with Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., long an advocate of immigration reform.


Immigration issue No. 1, McCain says
- November 22, 2004

President Bush has indicated he may rely on McCain, along with Sen. Edward Kennedy, to lead a bipartisan ef- fort to pass his immigration-reform plan.

McCain, in an interview Thursday, said he was confident Bush would push the immigration issue to the front burner and expected to hear more about it during the president's State of the Union address.


271 posted on 12/19/2004 2:12:58 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Dane; Travis McGee
and your total silence when a cop is killed by a person named Johnson, less than a month ago, which is linked on reply #76 of this thread.

Speaking of silence Dane, where is YOUR post of outrage to the link YOU posted in 76 ???

Seems like you only show up & make noise when the perps do have an hispanic last name.

272 posted on 12/19/2004 2:14:11 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Some of you folks in places like Wisconsin are simply ignorant fools.

If your opinion wasn't obvious before it is now.

Why don't you go find a thread that worships politicians and other government officials? There are more than a few out there.

Because I like it here, and I reject the directions of people who have earned my contempt.

See yea chump!

Champ is spelled with an "a," and you see very little.

273 posted on 12/19/2004 2:15:01 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: Dane
"another cop in another part of the country was killed by a person by the name of Johnson, you all went into a defensive mode."

No. There is no reason to go into defensive mode, since the lack of a post on a particular subject proves nothing. It only shows how silly you are to assert that it does.
274 posted on 12/19/2004 2:15:03 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: cyncooper
You accuse me of saying something I did not, from there you launch an unwarranted attack based upon these mythical statements.

cyncooper to Travis McGee (Post #130)
The only race-baiters are people like....you.
An otherwise sensible and smart person.
Believe me, the cover story that you're really just concerned about "illegals" doesn't pass the fact test.

Apparently...some MYTHS are more equal than others...

Rehaps you should olkk at WHAT YOU POST before complaining about "misquoting"...

275 posted on 12/19/2004 2:16:40 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: cyncooper; Travis McGee
You accuse me of saying something I did not

Isn't that what you did to Travis McGee?

276 posted on 12/19/2004 2:17:25 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Itzlzha
And perhaps I should spell-check befor posting...

Sentence SHOULD read..

Perhaps you should look at WHAT YOU POST before complaining about "misquoting"...

277 posted on 12/19/2004 2:18:49 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: Max Combined; Dane
"upset and anger, over a cop being shot by a person with a hispanic name"

Notice Dane wasn't too *outraged* when a cop was killed by a fellow named Johnson...

Dane didn't post to the thread either.

278 posted on 12/19/2004 2:19:15 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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To: cyncooper
As to intellect, it's plain mine towers over yours by miles.

meow meow meow meow meow meow

Ignoramus citizens are perilous to their NATION.

279 posted on 12/19/2004 2:19:41 PM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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To: Dane
"An honest question, why the inferiority complex about American ideals."

No, it is not an honest question, like nearly all your posts, is dishonest. It is a false premise.

There is no inferiority complex implied by wanting to protect America by upholding her laws, including those on immigration, in fact, without the rule of law, all other American ideals are threatened.
280 posted on 12/19/2004 2:20:50 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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