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Two county deputies shot, along with suspect (Two ARIZONA COPS shot by ILLEGAL ALIEN!!!)
East Valley Tribune ^ | 12/17/2004 | Kim Smith and Kristina Davis

Posted on 12/18/2004 6:45:29 PM PST by nanak

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To: Once-Ler
I say shut the borders and deport all illegals.

Sounds to me like you're saying "I got mine and the rest of the world can go the hell. Freedom is too precious to give to others. It's worth hoarding for ourselves."

OK...

Please leave your house and property, and go somewhere else...you have things I don't and I want them. Since Laws mean nothing to you, I am assuming you will do this without struggle...but if you resist, I will kill you, and the local courts are on MY side in the grand "Re-distribution" scheme (since THEY were voted in by folks like me who want YOUR goods and posessions)...after all, your (former) belongings are "too precious" to keep to yourself. It's worth allwoing others to ILLEGALLY take!

Of course, this will all be lost to you and your ilk....looking for a cheap gardener/nanny is MUCH more important that the Sovereignty and Laws we ALL are supposed to follow...or are ILLEGALS allowed to break laws they don't agree with/understand...just like you?

141 posted on 12/19/2004 10:13:31 AM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: cyncooper

All of us can admit I think that Mexico is a large country with extreme social problems --- and not one over there seems eager to do anything about it except send their problems our way. It's way past time that Mexicans start making some very needed changes --- exporting their problems isn't doing anything to improve anything over there --- it's all worsening.


142 posted on 12/19/2004 10:13:33 AM PST by FITZ
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To: WFTR
I don't see any glee here.

Two Arizona Cops shot by ILLEGAL ALIENS !!!

I do see glee. Especially the "!!!" part.

143 posted on 12/19/2004 10:15:23 AM PST by staytrue
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To: JustAnotherSavage

What is ironic --- here they try to force all kids to take Spanish classes and it's often immigrants from other countries who raise the most hell over that --- they'll go to the administration and insist their kids are to learn English and be in English speaking classrooms.


144 posted on 12/19/2004 10:18:57 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
It's way past time that Mexicans start making some very needed changes

I agree 100%.

Long before I ever heard of George W. Bush I thought if Mexico's society could shift from two strata of poor or rich to having a sound middle class that was the solution to illegal immigration. The country has glorious natural resources and a beautiful climate and vistas. I happen to think that President Bush's relationship to the leadership of Mexico is to influence such a change (but he is not superman and the corruption of Mexican leadership cannot be altered by a U.S. President's say-so), not to lure more illegals to our country, as some seem to think.

145 posted on 12/19/2004 10:20:00 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: staytrue

I don't see that as glee --- it sounds like a warning --- of what is easily coming over the border. You want this kind of illegal moving into your neighborhood? Anyone who has been to Mexico lately --- maybe visited the slums of Mexico City isn't going to be real enthused about all over Mexico moving up here.


146 posted on 12/19/2004 10:20:45 AM PST by FITZ
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To: staytrue

Who "gloated" over the shooting?? WHO?


147 posted on 12/19/2004 10:23:47 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: cyncooper
I believe they could be a middle class society if they were to make some serious reforms --- but the people of Mexico are quite Socialist --- with a 70% labor unionization rate as opposed to about 10% for the USA. And that is only the non-agricultural labor force --- the campesinos still have the ejido system --- which looks like Communism but in some ways maybe works for them ---- many farmers lost out when some of the ejidos were privatized because they lost their irrigation.

Maybe it's too late now for the reforms --- they're swinging back to the PRI party in all their recent elections. I think Fox could have accomplished much if he would have addressed a couple issues right off the bat --- but he didn't.

148 posted on 12/19/2004 10:25:58 AM PST by FITZ
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To: cyncooper
"Look up-thread, and see who injected race into this. You did.

Your post #9: Support multi-culti. Diversity is our strength"

Culture is not race. When he spoke of the leftist mantra of 'multi cult diversity' crapola, he was talking about the balkanization of this country. The dividing of this country. Not race. A country simply cannot have 2 seperate cultures with 2 separate languages and 2 separate sets of laws and remain United.

149 posted on 12/19/2004 10:27:00 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: FITZ

Many thousands of criminals who have committed crimes in the US have fled to Mexico to evade capture. Mexico refuses to extradite them to the US. Dozens of American police officers have been murdered by illegal aliens from Mexico and are protected in Mexico by their government. Many Americans have been killed or injured by illegals in car accidents or criminal acts, and for them there is also no hope of justice once the illegal gains the sanctuary of Mexico.

Police officers, having learned that the Mexican government, while demanding full "rights" for illegal aliens in the US will never recognize the rights of Americans to be safe,
have now urged that our country punish Mexico by the only means available: a boycott.

A great way to damage the Mexican elites is by refusing to travel to Mexico; there are many alternative vacation spots. Clothes, beer, electronics, anything that comes from Mexico should also be boycotted.

Please note the following news article.

Riverside Sheriff's group urges boycott of Mexican products

RIVERSIDE, Calif. The Riverside, County, California, Sheriffs' Association has joined law enforcement agencies in urging a boycott of Mexican products, services and vacations.

The boycott is an effort to pressure Mexico into extraditing fugitives wanted for murder in the United States.

The association president says residents in Mexico don't want the suspected killers in their neighborhoods.

The boycott movement began after the April 2002 killing of a Los Angeles County sheriff's Deputy while he was on patrol in the town of Irwindale.

The suspect fled to Mexico.

Mexico refuses to extradite suspects facing the death penalty or life in prison without parole.


150 posted on 12/19/2004 10:27:38 AM PST by itsLUCKY2B (“Borders, Language, and Culture.”)
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To: Travis McGee
Who is injecting race and ethnicity into this discussion? You are.

Because if a illegal Russian, Pole, etc. shot someone, it would not get posted in the same manner that a "less desireable" ethnicity does.

Of course, in terms of numbers, the main problem is with Mexican immigration.

151 posted on 12/19/2004 10:28:20 AM PST by staytrue (Thank you Freepers for delaying border control discussion until after Nov. 2)
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To: cyncooper; Travis McGee
"Several posts before that had more or less stated (yes, they did so don't bother denying it) that only illegals shoot cops"

That is a damn lie and you know what that makes you.

No one stated in any of the posts before post #72 that ONLY illegals shoot cops.

Post your quotes from the thread backing up your accusation or apologize for your dishonesty.
152 posted on 12/19/2004 10:29:24 AM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: cyncooper
Believe me, the cover story that you're really just concerned about "illegals" doesn't pass the fact test.

How many more prisons can we keep building to house the criminals of Mexico? We've got a lot of Americans behind bars --- but what good does that do if Vicente Fox can send us his? You don't see Mexico doing much --- not even in Ciudad Juarez where the crime is skyrocketing --- and he only recently addressed the problem of policemen kidnapping Mexican citizens --- including small children -- for ransom --- and that was only because the 3 policemen were lynched --- and even then most all he did was try to use the issue for his own political reasons ---- blamed it all on Lopez Obrador who is a popular PRD member --- in line for the next presidential campaign.

153 posted on 12/19/2004 10:29:51 AM PST by FITZ
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To: itsLUCKY2B

It's just like in some of the popular narco-corridas --- "Los Pinos nos da sombra" ---- the Mexican White House provides us cover.


154 posted on 12/19/2004 10:31:09 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Ajnin
How many times does it have to be explained to you that there is illegal immigration and legal immigration?

How many times does it have to be explained to you that the difference is only a matter of 51 votes in the Senate, and 218 votes in the House and the signature of the President to make all immigrants legal, or all illegal, or legal by lottery, skin color, money, height, weight or anything else.

The difference between legal and illegal is completely changeable and arbitrary and that is why it seems so unfair. I cite the "wet foot" "dry foot" distinction for Cuban immigrants.

155 posted on 12/19/2004 10:32:20 AM PST by staytrue (Thank you Freepers for delaying border control discussion until after Nov. 2)
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To: staytrue
Of course, in terms of numbers, the main problem is with Mexican immigration.

Careful.... someone's apt to call you a Storm Front or whatever for saying such a thing.

156 posted on 12/19/2004 10:32:21 AM PST by FITZ
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To: 26lemoncharlie
we are getting killed on our own borders!

Actually we are getting killed driving our cars and having heart attacks from lack of exercise.

157 posted on 12/19/2004 10:34:08 AM PST by staytrue (Thank you Freepers for delaying border control discussion until after Nov. 2)
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To: monkeywrench

Spare me. My grasp of the topic is quite on par.


158 posted on 12/19/2004 10:37:14 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: nanak

Wonder who will pay the perps medical bills? Send the bills to Crawford Texas you say? In care of whom?


159 posted on 12/19/2004 10:37:54 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: cyncooper

It's apparent that it isn't.


160 posted on 12/19/2004 10:39:07 AM PST by monkeywrench
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