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To: chronic_loser
Proof posiive that bright men can make incredibly dumbass statements. Einstein has both feet planted firmly in the air on that statement.

So tell us, dumbass, what you find wrong with it ...

140 posted on 12/19/2004 2:01:42 PM PST by balrog666 (The invisible and the nonexistent look very much alike.)
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To: balrog666
Proof posiive that bright men can make incredibly dumbass statements. Einstein has both feet planted firmly in the air on that statement. So tell us, dumbass, what you find wrong with it ...>>> sorry, was afk and missed your reply/question. Einstein simply made an assumption that certain things were of value without positing ANY basis for assigning value to them. Withhout a reference point, any statement that mankind "should" do this or that is an absurdity. Furthermore, it is impermissible to "cheat" and add some value like survival of the species. There is NO reason why survival of the human race (or the entire planet, for that matter) should take on moral significance. We are cosmic belches, burped up by a dead universe, going nowhere, with no ultimate differences when the last nebulae have burned out, as to whether we acted with kindness or cruelty. Everything is meaningless. That is why I sneer when some kid who has had philosophy 101 prates about the religious being "afraid to face the cold hard facts." Rather, it is the irreligious who is afraid to face the clear implications of his own worldview and continues to object as though life has meaning. The reason you will become incensed if I piss in your soup is not that you don't like the taste of urine. It is because you rightly perceive that as an assault on your dignity. However, " dignity " is an absurdity in a world without God. Einstein was no different than anyone else in that respect. Lots of bright people can't live consistently with their worldviews, especially if their worldview is in cosmic revolt against the Creator.
450 posted on 12/20/2004 11:13:40 AM PST by chronic_loser (Go to my blog: http://snarktown.blogspot.com)
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To: balrog666
Proof posiive that bright men can make incredibly dumbass statements. Einstein has both feet planted firmly in the air on that statement. So tell us, dumbass, what you find wrong with it ...>>> sorry, was afk and missed your reply/question. Einstein simply made an assumption that certain things were of value without positing ANY basis for assigning value to them. Withhout a reference point, any statement that mankind "should" do this or that is an absurdity. Furthermore, it is impermissible to "cheat" and add some value like survival of the species. There is NO reason why survival of the human race (or the entire planet, for that matter) should take on moral significance. We are cosmic belches, burped up by a dead universe, going nowhere, with no ultimate differences when the last nebulae have burned out, as to whether we acted with kindness or cruelty. Everything is meaningless. That is why I sneer when some kid who has had philosophy 101 prates about the religious being "afraid to face the cold hard facts." Rather, it is the irreligious who is afraid to face the clear implications of his own worldview and continues to object as though life has meaning. The reason you will become incensed if I piss in your soup is not that you don't like the taste of urine. It is because you rightly perceive that as an assault on your dignity. However, " dignity " is an absurdity in a world without God. Einstein was no different than anyone else in that respect. Lots of bright people can't live consistently with their worldviews, especially if their worldview is in cosmic revolt against the Creator.
454 posted on 12/20/2004 11:16:49 AM PST by chronic_loser (Go to my blog: http://snarktown.blogspot.com)
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