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To: PatrickHenry
Colling would call snowflakes another result of the "random-design process." If the process has a designer, then snowflakes aren't, as you say, truly random.

If random has a designer, then what is observed as random is actually "apparently random."

13 posted on 12/18/2004 6:27:57 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Fatalis
... then what is observed as random is actually "apparently random."

Personally, I'm inclined to believe that all random is apparently random. Random seems to be one of those concepts that are easy to understand (like "infinity" or "forever") but don't really exist. Even the randomness found in quantum theory disappears on a large enough scale.

28 posted on 12/18/2004 7:55:34 PM PST by forsnax5 (The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.)
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To: Fatalis

If random has a designer, then what is observed as random is actually "apparently random."

My math is rusty but isn't the result of each roll of two dice considered random? And isn't it random within a limited number of possibilities with some possibilities more likely than others? A truly random number generator that must produce a result between zero and one is random but limited by a rule. Don't the physical laws of the universe limit what "apparently random" processes operating within it produce?

79 posted on 12/19/2004 7:15:43 AM PST by ml1954
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