[kingsurfer]

I am british I have nothing to do with clinton.

I simply do not agree with this view of venezuela.

[BobL]

"I am british..."

Sorry - socialist (just kidding).

Seriously, I don't know what's with you guys (and I mean this more towards the continent than Britain). It's like a death wish or something. I get the impression that Europeans see themselves as the classic case of a young boy who's father is a cop. You behave as if you can get away with anything, because there's bid daddy (USA) ready to bail you out. Europe, to a large extent, certainly did that during the Cold War. It's tough and expensive for us over here to keep doing that, but we do it because it is in our interest. However, you guys have a Muslim nightmare that dwarfs anything in South America - and we can't help you there. You need to step up to it.