[mrustow]

It's incomplete; only a dishonest person would refer to hackers exclusively in positive terms.

Alright, sport. Let's see your computer security credentials. Put up or shut up.

Wrongo, "sport." Since I never claimed to be a "computer security" expert, there's nothing for me to put up or shut up about. Are you a tenured professor? If not, you should be. You play projection, deflection, diversion and intimidation games like the holder of an endowed chair. You don't get to frame a discussion to your liking, and then intimidate anyone who refuses to accept your frame.

[Prime Choice]

Since I never claimed to be a "computer security" expert, there's nothing for me to put up or shut up about.

Bull. You were spouting your ignorant tripe that the definition of hacker thus far provided was incomplete. Thus you were insisting that you had more knowledge on the subject. When I pointed out that your views were based on ignorance, you claimed I was dishonest.

So, punk: put up or shut up.