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To: Always Right
cogitator worships at the alter of the IPCC. I really can't see how an intellectually honest person can defend the hockey stick theory.

My friend, you're wrong -- the IPCC is not the be-all and end-all of climate science. But as for the hockey stick, I have on very good authority that in two papers -- one about to be published, one likely to be published later in 2005, the "hockey stick" will be verified beyond any shadow of any doubt. Sorry to be the one to break the news to you on that, but that's the way it's going to be. I recommend planning your own personal paradigm shift soon.

86 posted on 12/20/2004 8:29:00 AM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator
So you are basing your claims on yet-to-be-published research you haven't seen, which will support a paper which has been debunked and 'beyond a shadow of a doubt', all while posting to an article which refutes your claims in the first place, and after accusing others of unscientific advocacy, and high-handedly warning others to prepare for a paradigm shift.

Your attitude and posting behavior on this topic hardly strikes me as balanced.

The paper right here speaks directly to the implications of the 'hockey stick' proposition, that current absolute temperature levels and the decadal rates of change are beyond natural variability. This paper demonstrates otherwise.

89 posted on 12/20/2004 8:48:21 AM PST by Monti Cello
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To: cogitator
My friend, you're wrong -- the IPCC is not the be-all and end-all of climate science. But as for the hockey stick, I have on very good authority that in two papers -- one about to be published, one likely to be published later in 2005, the "hockey stick" will be verified beyond any shadow of any doubt.

How can something be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt when the preponderance of the evidence says otherwise. I have no doubt that they will make that claim, but please those are the same people have been saying for over a decade on the basis of a correlation say that it has been absolutely proven that global warming is entirely caused by man. Call me skeptical, but I know better than to accept their conclusions. There is just way too much evidence that shows there was a medevil warm period around most of the globe.

98 posted on 12/20/2004 10:37:32 AM PST by Always Right
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