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To: cogitator
The perturbation that is occurring now is a marked increase in CO2 without any other notable climate forcing factors. Because there are feedbacks both positive and negative in the climate system, there is very likely a "damped" response in the climate system to rising CO2.

The perturbation is still not outside of what we have been seeing for the last 10,000 years. There are several spikes that are nearly identical to what we are seeing today. And I never see global warmers talking about posible negative feedback systems that is possibly damping the temperature response. If this is true, it is silly to talk about the exponential growth in temperature that global alarmists keep warning us about.

111 posted on 12/20/2004 12:00:47 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
The perturbation is still not outside of what we have been seeing for the last 10,000 years.

The perturbation in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere is obviously well outside the range of what has happend to atmospheric CO2 concentrations since the end of the last glacial period.

And I never see global warmers talking about posible negative feedback systems that is possibly damping the temperature response. If this is true, it is silly to talk about the exponential growth in temperature that global alarmists keep warning us about.

The chief unknown -- and still hard to figure out -- is cloud feedbacks. If warming increases clouds sufficiently, the extra cloud cover would counteract the warming influence. Most "global warmers" will mention that. As for that exponential growth in temperature, I've only seen that in the high-end predictions from models in which some of the negative feedbacks have been removed or modified. It gives the predictions an error range, and the media loves the high end, but because it's the high end it's not as likely as the mid-range, and far less likely than the low end predictions.

121 posted on 12/20/2004 1:09:05 PM PST by cogitator
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