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To: chemainus
Hey, Rice is a great choice for the 08 ticket, barring anything unforeseen occurring.
If we actually want to win, that is.

I believe that her name on the ticket would counter the woman's vote going to Hilda, and that is crucial to us.
Building on minority support can only help.

At this time, I would say McCain/Rice would be capable of beating Bill's machine.

Before folks respond with matters of issues and policy regarding McCain & Rice, let me state that I am only talking about *winning* in 08.

Of course, It's far too early to know who win run for our ticket in 08, but I'm pretty darn sure it's Clinton over on the other side.

"Mutate, Migrate or Die. Of the three, change is the easiest and most functional."

By this I'm quite sure that you are not suggesting, as so many here may have thought, that our principles and fundamental values change, but that the idea of a black woman on the executive ticket should be a reasonable idea. - Or, so I hope that was your gist.

That wouldn't have flown 20 years ago...
203 posted on 12/20/2004 12:55:43 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

You understood correctly...and for all those FREEPERS who cling to the "I Like Dole" and the other sundry "good ole' value boys" I say...LOOK AT HITLERY's numbers....and go down in defeat if you so choose...

"Hillary's Poll Numbers Startling

If the 2008 presidential election were held today, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton would handily defeat three of the top Republicans being touted as possible candidates, a startling new survey by Fox News Opinion Dynamics shows.

In a race between Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and Clinton, the New York Democrat would win by 7 points, defeating Frist 40 percent to 33 percent, the poll found.

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Matched against New York Gov. George Pataki, Clinton's margin of victory drops by 1 point, but she'd still win 41 percent to 35 percent.
In the most stunning development, the Fox survey found the former first lady would even defeat Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, 46 percent to 35 percent.

Opinion Dynamics also found that "a clear majority of voters thinks Hillary Clinton is qualified to be president of the United States (59 percent), including a third of Republicans, 58 percent of independents and 84 percent of Democrats.

Two of the most popular Republicans, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Arizona Sen. John McCain, were not included in the poll.

However, a Quinnipiac University survey released last week showed that Giuliani would defeat Clinton 45 percent to 43 percent if he were to run for her Senate seat in 2006.

The Fox poll also showed that John Kerry would defeat Gov. Bush if Kerry were to run again in 2008, but by a smaller margin than Clinton - 45 percent to 37 percent.

Opinion Dynamics conducted the national telephone survey of 900 registered voters on December 14-15."


219 posted on 12/20/2004 12:45:41 PM PST by chemainus
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