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Transgender engineer proud of YWCA honor
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 12/16/04 | Rhonda Bodfield Bloom

Posted on 12/16/2004 12:10:14 PM PST by freespirited

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To: Dante3
You got it right!! It's not the body that's screwed up, it's the mind.

Looks like there's a financial bonus in here for this dude, doesn't it!!

121 posted on 12/16/2004 7:27:43 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Sir, being born with a cleft lip or a hole in the heart hardly compares to one "choosing" to become a female/male physically. Plastic surgery is a miracle for many families with children that are born with physical deformities. I know because my own daughter has benefited from plastic surgery. I have no doubts that individuals that receive this surgery are obviously mentally ill as are the physicians that perform them. It is unethical and immoral. I'm sure the studies are interesting but I have very little faith in studies conducted by people (studies tend to be very self serving).


122 posted on 12/16/2004 8:26:55 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
Sir, being born with a cleft lip or a hole in the heart hardly compares to one "choosing" to become a female/male physically.

You completely missed my point.

123 posted on 12/16/2004 11:49:24 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
And on the Found Fathers, what I know for sure is the Found Father knew A LOT about history and cultures and the rise and fall of nations and governments and that unlike you, before they decided anything, they would give it a fair hearing and discussion.

To make such a ridiculous statement proves you know nothing of this nation's founders and their strongly held belief, almost to a man, in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They would have been repelled and disgusted by such an act.

I never said they would choose one way or the other, I just said that the Founding Fathers would give it a fair hearing.

Intelligent people tend to hear someone out before they make a desision on a subject, something you cannot even imagine doing.

By the way, the jury system of our courts is based on Norse Viking culture and our republic form of government is partly based on the English system of government, but parts of it are throwbacks to the Ancient Roman and Greek governments.

124 posted on 12/16/2004 11:57:53 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
No I didn't miss your point, I think you are missing mine. No amount of trans-gender apologetics will change my view of the illegitimacy of this procedure. The money spent doing these procedures would be better spent going towards mental health counseling. I am not being a jerk, it is what I firmly believe.
125 posted on 12/17/2004 7:21:14 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
No I didn't miss your point, I think you are missing mine. No amount of trans-gender apologetics will change my view of the illegitimacy of this procedure.

"Apologetics"?... No one has so far apologizied for anything here. And I use logic and reason to rule my opinions.

The money spent doing these procedures would be better spent going towards mental health counseling.

Actually, if you had researched this you would have know what that other things have been tried for twenty years (50's to 70's); everything from 'peer pressure' to lobotomies. The person either ends up dead, still feeling like they are in the wrong gender or a catatonic vegetables.

And 'peer pressure' only works at best temporarily.

I am not being a jerk,

I never said you were. Do you believe you are?

it is what I firmly believe.

Belief without reason, nor evidence is insanity.

126 posted on 12/17/2004 1:45:57 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: pigdog; little jeremiah
Ping

Here's a thread, I know there's more.. off to find another, see you in a few minuets.

127 posted on 10/11/2005 11:29:47 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (http://soapboxharry.blogspot.com/)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Yes, being transgendered and having one's body mutilated and castrated in order to fulfill one's fantasy is totally legitimate and rational. Umm hmm. Yup.


128 posted on 10/11/2005 11:38:58 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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