Posted on 12/16/2004 11:59:33 AM PST by Publius
Republicans announced plans Thursday morning to sue King County over 573 newly discovered ballots that could change the outcome of the closest governor's race in Washington state history.
The county's Canvassing Board voted Wednesday to prepare the 573 absentee ballots for inclusion in the hand recount, over the objections of Republicans who urged the county to investigate the ballots first.
State GOP Chairman Chris Vance said Thursday the party would seek a court order Thursday afternoon in Pierce County, aimed at slowing down the processing of the previously rejected ballots to allow them to be better tracked and verified.
Specifically, the party wants to stop the county from separating the ballots from their outer envelopes, which Vance said would make it far more difficult to determine where the ballots came from, whether they were stored correctly, and why they were not counted previously.
Democrats applauded and Republicans decried the board's decision Wednesday to move forward with assessing the 573 previously rejected ballots. King County is a Democratic stronghold and the newly discovered ballots have the potential to change the outcome of the election.
"I get to vote, I did it right, and it gets to count," said King County Councilman Larry Phillips, whose ballot was among the 573 mistakenly rejected by election workers.
Election workers will verify signatures on the ballots, and the canvassing board will meet again Monday to decide whether to count the ballots that have been verified. The three-member board postponed a decision on what to do with 22 other newly discovered ballots but will consider that Monday as well, said Bobbie Egan, county elections spokeswoman.
Republican Dino Rossi won the Nov. 2 election over Democrat Christine Gregoire by 261 votes in the first count and by 42 after a machine recount. As of Wednesday he had gained 79 votes in the hand recount for a margin of 121.
The canvassing board voted 2-1 to move forward with recanvassing the 573 ballots. King County Election Director Dean Logan and Democratic King County Councilman Dwight Pelz voted for the recanvassing; voting no was Dan Satterberg, chief of staff for Republican King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng.
Satterberg complained that Logan was rushing, and said the board should take more time to figure out the story behind the newly discovered ballots.
"This is a matter of public integrity, public trust," Satterberg told Logan as they met before a row of TV cameras and reporters. "The appearance to the world that's watching is that you're rushing this through."
Logan said King County election workers made a mistake and he wanted to correct it. The absentee ballots were not counted originally because the voters' signatures had not been scanned into the county's computer system. Election workers should have checked the paper files, but instead the ballots were mistakenly rejected. The error was discovered only after Phillips saw his name on a list of rejected absentee ballots and notified Logan.
"The facts are pretty clear there was a discrepancy in the canvassing of these ballots," Logan said. "There is a record that shows these are validly registered voters who did nothing wrong."
State law allows counties to recanvass ballots and correct errors during a recount if there is "an apparent discrepancy or an inconsistency in the returns."
Election workers had found at least 245 of the 573 voters' signatures on paper registration records by Wednesday afternoon. They will continue checking the records and verify the ballots that belong to registered voters. Workers will then take those ballots out of their security envelopes and return them to the board for a final decision on whether they should be counted.
Vance urged the canvassing board to reject the ballots.
"At some point it just lacks credibility that they keep finding ballots," Vance said. "None of these ballots should be counted."
After the canvassing board vote, Phillips retorted, "I don't care what the chairman of the state Republican party has to say. I did my duty as a citizen and he's going to get out the way ... He has a right to have his vote counted and so do I."
State GOP attorneys are considering their options now. If the King County ballots are included in the recount, and they do end up putting Gregoire on top, lawsuits may ensue.
"It doesn't look like I'm going to do any Christmas shopping anytime soon," said Mark Braden, Rossi's chief lawyer, after leaving the canvassing board meeting.
The board delayed a decision on 22 other ballots- 20 absentee and two provisional - found in the side bins of plastic base units in which polling machines sit. All ballots should have been logged on Election Night and returned in a sealed bag to election headquarters, but these 22 apparently weren't. They've been sitting unsecured at various polling places since the election.
The hand recount is expected to finish by Dec. 22, though there's no deadline set in state law. The governor's inauguration is scheduled for Jan. 12.
Meanwhile, two members of the federal Election Assistance Commission arrived in Washington on Wednesday to observe the recount. Kay Stimson, spokeswoman for the commission, said the members wanted to learn about the historically close recount for a report on "best practices" by the states.
It's too late. All counties have reported and certified except for Pierce, Snomohish and King. Pierce and Snohomish will report tomorrow, and King is scheduled to report next week.
Ask yourself honestly, if absentee ballots in a heavily-Republican county were disallowed because of an error by the tabulators, would Democrats not strongly be insisting they shouldn't be counted?
Florida, New Mexico in 2000, Ohio, Washington today. None of the disputes were in republican precincts.
2. Where else did Phillips vote that day?
Phillips was in Ohio campaigning for Kerry.
If an election worker accidently takes home a stack of ballots and then returns them untouched, should they be valid? I don't care how much evidence there is that they were sealed and untouched. For the integrity of the process they should be discarded. Some mistakes shouldn't be fixed. There is no proof that the 22 ballots found in the machine base were there on election day. As for the 573 ballots, as long as there is a complete verified chain of custody and it is proven that the ballots are valid, then they should count. It is interesting that the papers never quote any republican poll workers/counters that are vouching for the ballots.
Assuming the story about the uncounted absentees is true (and I've seen no evidence it's not), those ballots should be counted.
I disagree with your statement. I would write it like this: Until the story about the uncounted ballots can be proven or sufficiently verified (and I have seen no evidence that they have), those ballots should not be counted. All disputed or "found" ballots should not be counted until proven valid instead of counting all ballots until proven invalid.
The Republican's are so silent.....because, like President Bush, I believe they know how to play POKER.....and the game ain't over yet!!! (Lots is going on behind the scenes)
That is GREAT..... The Dim-Rats want to steal the election. Check the poll on www.nwcn.com
Phillips was out of town, Ohio, I think.
Yeah....I don't think the Republican's have yet checked all of Puget Sound for ballots.....but, the dragging and dredging would take months.
Agreed. But if there were disputes over suddenly 'discovered' ballots in a Republican precinct, you can be damn sure the Democrats would be all over it like Bill Clinton on a pudgy intern.
Heck, there wasn't any fraud in Ohio, and some Democrats still can't admit they lost.
If you're suggesting that we all get "chipped" to be allowed to vote (or to be allowed to engage in commerce), then I would have to disagree. (And I'm an atheist, no less.)
I would prefer showing a picture ID to prove I'm the person who is appearing to vote. And I'd abolish absentee voting entirely, along with this business of provisional ballots.
Yes, you are correct.
Exactly. Six weeks after the election, any newly 'found' ballots should be presumed invalid unless proven otherwise.
See Chad's explanation. Your argumentative, sarcastic post to him was how I reached that conclusion. He was talking about the ballots they simply "found" in some pocket on some voting machine, and you argued that they should be counted, because he had no "evidence" there was anything sinister going on.
I heard a fascinating exchange between Carlson (KVI) and a Democratic poll worker at the King County recount. Although the poll worker allowed that he personally would not let any chicanery get by him from either party, he said he could understand why Democrats would want to steal this race -- as payback to Republicans who stole the 2004 election in Florida and Ohio.
I was flabbergasted.
That happened to me once. But I was a little kid then, and I repressed the memories...
I don't agree with Rad_J. Ballots that are found are checked against voter rolls, signatures are checked, and they check whether the voter voted already, before any "found" ballot is used. It's not some game.
And if Democrats are so partisan that they are only looking in King County for ballots (where most of the voters are, by the way), they would not have filed suit with the Supreme Court to have ALL ballots in ALL counties re-examined for validity under a single standard.
Here's the deal: either all counties must subject ballots to a single standard (which the SC rejected), or King County can decide as the arbiter of its own election rules (which it is) to re-examine its own ballots. You can't have it both ways.
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