Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Yossarian
Why? Because all those 64-bit pathways make the chip bigger, and bigger chips are slower chips.

I think AMD did very well with its 64-bit extensions to the x86 ISA. IBM also did well with its PPC 970 chip that's designed from scratch to do 32- and 64-bit natively with no performance hit in either mode. The Itanium is a different monster, a 64-bit chip that has to run 32-bit code in emulation -- a disaster when general computing is still mostly 32-bit (although they do well in supercomputers).

30 posted on 12/28/2004 10:45:32 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies ]


To: antiRepublicrat
Why? Because all those 64-bit pathways make the chip bigger, and bigger chips are slower chips.

I think AMD did very well with its 64-bit extensions to the x86 ISA.

Ah, you're talking about architectual issues, and I'm talking about physical issues.

Just imagine a nice medium size burg. Then imagine it, if all the roads and paths were made with double the width. Assuming that the lot sizes were the same, the town would grow, would it not?

And when you are driving your car at the same speed as before (i.e. the limits of physics), it takes you longer to go from one corner of the bigger town to the other corner, right?

It's the same way in chips, especially if they are constrained not by block size, but by wiring considerations. And of course, those blocks are going to grow in size, because now they have to process 64 bits, not 32 - some will double in size.

Now, the fabs do nice things like give us physical designers more layers to play with, and if we lay out things nicely, we minimize the cost of these double-wide bit lanes. But bigger they are, and bigger = lower frequency.

On the other hand, now you can gain some speed back by taking advantage of 64 bit calculations in your OS and applications. So in some cases it's a wash, or if 64-bit calcs really speed things, up, a win. But it still has lower frequency than a smaller design.

32 posted on 12/28/2004 12:08:36 PM PST by Yossarian (Remember: NOT ALL HEART ATTACKS HAVE TRADITIONAL SYMPTOMS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson