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To: ZULU; O.C. - Old Cracker
"This is a perfect example of why people can get in trouble for as much as defending their family and home."

You have a warped idea about what constitutes a danger to your family and home. If you are physically attacked, then of course it is right and proper to defend them with force. Bad words cannot harm you though. This is why 'civilization' punishes people who physically attack others and not those who verbally attack others.

Do you think people who kill others in acts of road rage are justified if they do so because someone flips them off, or calls them a bad name? It sounds as if you do.
93 posted on 12/15/2004 12:47:28 PM PST by monday
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To: monday
Ridiculous. There was a tug of war over a cell phone, the older man released his hold on said phone and the 40 year old punk sailed across the room. No one was killed, but the punk's appearance was surely quite comical. Jesse Tabor was made to look like the fool that he obviously is and the older man was applauded by all those in the court room.

If this hearing had taken place where I'm from in Tennessee, the older man would have been warned softly from the becnh and released, with no probation. As it occured in Minnesota, the leftist judge felt obliged to levy some punishment. The blue states can never get it right.

99 posted on 12/15/2004 12:55:45 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: monday

Old Cracker, I think you are drawing analogies here on actions I am not supporting by my statement.

Years ago if some jerk used foul language in front of a woman or kid, he was generally treated to a five-finger sandwich by the closest real man. I guess I'm an older Cracker than you are because I remember those days. Today, the foulest of obscenties are spouted with impugnity in public and blasted out of car radios. People hearing this are justifiably offended but unable to respond.

Thanks to the over-civilized society in which we have become accustomed to live, anyone who did so would find themselves subject to legal action.

The same thing happens in many jurisdictions today should a home owner use armed force against a burgler or thief, or even intended rapist or murderer.

This is part and parcel of the same emasculated mind set with which we have permitted our society to be dominated, as well as our culture, and and what we have allowed to determine what we consider "acceptable" and "non-acceptable" behavior.

Personally, I feel somebody using vulgar profanity in the presence of women and children is far more offensive than the act of physically retaliating against such an oaf in order to silence him, should it be necessary.

Obviously the level of reliation should equal the offense and I'm certainly not equating blowing away another driver who makes an obscene jesture, with the appropriate but no longer legal responses I have just presented.

We live in a society where "honor" and "respect" are empty terms. A society where tolerance by the majority, of unacceptable actions by minorities, is mandated, and all other social standards are sublimited to "minority rights" even when those "minority rights" are undermining our culture, society, civlization, and the rights and wishes of the majority.


180 posted on 12/17/2004 8:02:15 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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