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Supreme Court rejects Democrats' petition in Wash. gov. race
KGW.com ^ | 12/14/04

Posted on 12/14/2004 10:20:03 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum

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To: DrDeb
Excellent . . . this establishes even more precedent for denying similar (il)legal manuevers here in Ohio!

Unfortunately, I don't think that anything the Washington Supreme Court does will have any bearing on what happens in Ohio. State Supreme Courts generally rule based on state Constitutions and Washington's Constitution may bear little similarity to Ohio's.

21 posted on 12/14/2004 10:35:19 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: pissant

I am glad that you specified Seattle in your post. We in eastern WA have been dominated by the liberals on the west side for years and years. Both our senators are liberals from Seattle and petitioning them is a lost cause. If you look at the map you will see that, with the exception of a couple of counties, the blue area is west of the Cascades while the east side is predoninately red. I would like to see a new state formed east of the mountains or at the very least a change in the state constitution that would make one of our senators an eastside position. Unfortunately the westside dominates the state legislature and it would never get passed.


22 posted on 12/14/2004 10:35:41 AM PST by JoeBob (If you live like sheep the wolves will eat you.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

So does this include ballots that the Dem's said were improperly disqualified in King County? There they said that signatures were not verified against actual voter cards just the computers.


23 posted on 12/14/2004 10:36:28 AM PST by standupfortruth
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To: standupfortruth

Someone on the other thread discussing this heard that both parties thought they were legitimate and they would be counted...but I haven't heard any official statement.


24 posted on 12/14/2004 10:39:40 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I'll bet that the Dem Surpreme Court justices would not have ruled against these ballots if they were not quite sure that Dem cheating in the recount wouldn't put GregGore over the top without them.


25 posted on 12/14/2004 10:40:25 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"We note in passing that the declaration of Dean C. Logan, Director of King County Records, Elections and Licensing Division, says that King County, like many other counties, looks for three points of similarity between the signatures on absentee and provisional ballot envelopes and the signatures on file.

Good grief!
How tough is it to look at a Democrat signature and NOT find "three points of similarity"?
I mean, it's only an 'X'.

26 posted on 12/14/2004 10:42:53 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Washington Supreme Court does will have any bearing on what happens in Ohio

But the 2000 SCOTUS ruling did on Washington on not having different methods of counting the vote in-state and would be a consideration if it made the high court on Ohio.

27 posted on 12/14/2004 10:43:06 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Weren't there some ballots added in between the first count and the machine recount? Isn't that what dropped the total from 261 to 42? Does this ruling remove those ballots and we're now back upwards towards 261?!!?


28 posted on 12/14/2004 10:44:19 AM PST by SW6906
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To: standupfortruth
So does this include ballots that the Dem's said were improperly disqualified in King County? There they said that signatures were not verified against actual voter cards just the computers.

The Democrats will try to say it does not apply to the 561, but my reading of the decision "Thus, under Washington’s statutory scheme, ballots are to be “retabulated” only if they have been previously counted or tallied, subject to the provisions of RCW 29A.60.210. " sees no wiggle room for King County to deliver previously rejected ballots.

29 posted on 12/14/2004 10:44:25 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Semper Paratus

Yes, the 2000 SCOTUS ruling would certainly pertain in Ohio.


30 posted on 12/14/2004 10:45:36 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

bad news for democrats, it seems the election law trend is to RESPECT constency and standards.


31 posted on 12/14/2004 10:47:25 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: B Knotts

I too am really surpeised. I was suspect of Washington's judges but that was also based on Oregon judges. Oregon judges are ninth district quality, worse if that is possible.


32 posted on 12/14/2004 10:53:11 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: KenmcG414

Yeah I know I'm just surprised that stopped them. It did not stop the Florida or New Jersey Supreme Courts from making wacky rulings and my states court does not always feel bound by that either.


33 posted on 12/14/2004 10:55:45 AM PST by FreedomHasACost
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To: VeritatisSplendor

Decision states "ballots to be RECOUNTED". To be recounted they would havt to have been counted previously. IMHO


34 posted on 12/14/2004 10:58:00 AM PST by Forrestfire ("Its what you learn AFTER you know everything, that counts." John Wooden)
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To: Forrestfire
To be recounted they would havt to have been counted previously.

Right. The 'rats will now have to petition to have them included. Rotsa ruck!

35 posted on 12/14/2004 11:01:10 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: JoeBob

JoeBob,
I live in Tacoma. Pierce County is much more evenly split than King. It's the turds in Seattle, Olympia, Everett & Bellingham that tilt the states politics to the left.


36 posted on 12/14/2004 11:04:39 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
"Hopefully the suicide rate will have a huge spike!!!",/I>

The suicide rate in several Washington counties is already at or above the 90th percentile nationwide, but oddly, King County is not among them.

37 posted on 12/14/2004 11:50:45 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Lancey Howard

"Unfortunately, I don't think that anything the Washington Supreme Court does will have any bearing on what happens in Ohio. State Supreme Courts generally rule based on state Constitutions and Washington's Constitution may bear little similarity to Ohio's."


Despite possible dissimilarities between constitutions, Ohio justices will still examine rulings rendered by their peers in other states!

[FYI: Some members of the US Supreme Court actually believe they should consider rulings rendered in other COUNTRIES before making a decision!]


38 posted on 12/14/2004 12:17:53 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: DrDeb

Oh yeah! Scottish law!


39 posted on 12/14/2004 12:35:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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