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I believe that I didn't give crail enough of that benefit.

Well if you're around Creation/Evolution debates for a while you learn the language too. While the post "Evolution and the 2nd law are incompatible" sounds like "Evolution and the 2nd law are incompatible," it actually, in the context of a Creo-Evo debate, translates as "Any of you evolutionists up for a beatin'?" Likewise, the correct response: "You don't understand the 2nd!" is roughly translated to "BRING IT THE *!?& ON!" Here you see the creationist broadcasting for some playtime on an evolutionists skull, and the evolutionist accepting the challenge.

You can also see the reverse. It usually goes something like this:
E: Natural Selection explains how life, or reproducible matter if you will, came into being!
Translation: I'm here to go cro-magon on some creationist!
C: What?!? You don't even understand natural selection. Translation: Let's dance, punk.

So while it seems impolite, neither one *really* believes the 2nd outlaws evolution, or that natural selection explains first life. We just say it to push buttons, it's a dance, then we go home.

However, occasionally you'll see the partners not go home. This opens up the possibility that the whole enterprise will degrade into intelligent argumentation and debate. No one likes to see that. Back and forth, back and forth, it can go on for hours and always to a null result! ALWAYS! Really, the only serious part is when we talk about science curriculum in public schools, all else is play.

By the way, from your past posts, it looks like your a creationist. You do know that natural selection explains how they get the caramel in the caramilk, right? If I had more time, that's what I'd tell you! ;)

But does it explain the union's bargaining position for the Oompa Loompas, or who is responsible for each individual, handcrafted bubble in the Aero bars?

Yup. Creationist. With a sense of humour. And good natured desire for dialogue, not debate.

Your post reminded me of a zoologist watching a bunch of animals through binoculars and talking into a microphone attached to an old tape recorder. It made me smile. Thanks.