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Science Shows That Homosexuals Are Not "Born That Way."
December 13, 2004

Posted on 12/13/2004 9:51:59 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: Baynative
Can the same be said for liberalism?

No, that is a debilitating mental illness that **can** be cured...

Often times it's simply cured as time passes by (age). Sometimes it's cured by things such as being the victim of an armed robbery. Or, the government taking away your home. There are So many cures it makes one wonder how there are still people in existence with Liberal Disease.

81 posted on 12/13/2004 11:18:05 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: BikerNYC

Did you chose to date girls in high school instead of boys?

Did you only chose girls because that was what was expected OR BECAUSE YOU HAD NO CHOICE - YOU JUST HAD TO HAVE A DATE WITH THAT CUTE GIRL IN THE NEXT AISLE?

I suggest people remember their own teenage years and when they made their choice.

Frankly - it never came up with me - it was just natural because of the many crushes I was surrounded with in my teenage years. (Note-I am female).


82 posted on 12/13/2004 11:18:34 AM PST by ClancyJ (Middle America is what makes America - not the Liberal "elitists" and the Media)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Bump.


83 posted on 12/13/2004 11:19:03 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: TerP26

>> I mean you can find tons of animals that exhibit in same-sex behavior.<<

Yes, because most animals engage in sexual behavior simply as a result of environmental stimuli. For instance, most animals simply go into periodic "heat," where they are sexually aroused by what time it is in a sexual cycle, and not by the characteristics of another animal present. Such animals often mate with members of the opposite sex only because they find members of their own sex unreceptive. A cat in heat will becom esexually active with whatever fits its anatomy the best. A same-sex relation is better to a cat than a carpet, but a carpet will do, also. But that same cat will, AFAIK, always prefer another cat of the opposite gender.

Humans are very unique among animals in that our sexuality is not cyclical. Human female's breasts are perpetually enlarged for sexuality, and both genders are capable of sexual relations at any time. Rather, human sexuality is mostly triggered by psychological, rather than physiological conditions. (There are some vestigal physiological causes; Men tend to be visually stimulated while women tend to show a circilunar greater ease of arousal.) The complex psychological elements of sexuality are altogether absent in most animals, and therefore comparisons to human sexuality are just silly.

I would have a couple conditions before I would consider relating animal homosexuality to human homosexuality:

1. The animal would have monogamous in nature. This is not because I am asserting that humans are monogamous in nature, but because it establishes sexual psychology, not simply indiscriminate humping; In corollary, the animal would have to be exclusively homosexual; bisexuality in animals would only demonstrate a lack of cognitive discrimination.

2. The animal would have to have heterosexual opportunity. In other words, I wouldn't classify as homosexual animals which are striving for heterosexual matings, but which are physiologically compelled to sexually climax in spite of the ability to find an appropriate mate.


84 posted on 12/13/2004 11:19:53 AM PST by dangus
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To: calex59
...but of course that is just my opinion.

That opinion is so gay...

(kidding...)

85 posted on 12/13/2004 11:20:04 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: TerP26

Send me a picture of animals being homo. Any animal. I keep hearing this about animals and I have never seen a queer animal. Maybe you have movies of animals exhibiting queer tendencies? If you do please post them here so we can all see for ourselves. If you have no proof, make no statements about it.


86 posted on 12/13/2004 11:21:29 AM PST by calex59
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

bump


87 posted on 12/13/2004 11:21:49 AM PST by VOA
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To: ClancyJ
Yes, I chose to date girls in high school.

What's the alternative? That our entire emotional life is nothing but a reflection of the particular combination of genes we were born with and the environmental trappings of a period of our lives over which we had no control and do not remember?

Do we choose who to fall in love with?
88 posted on 12/13/2004 11:23:39 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: demoRat watcher

>>They look good and are for the most part healthy because homosexuals are not recruiting those whom they do not find attractive.<<

No, it's because homosexuals are, by nature, narcisistic. And they also tend to be sexually compulsive, so they are very driven to get off on themselves.


89 posted on 12/13/2004 11:24:36 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
Hmmmm... You bring up some good points.

Now I wonder what kind of "sexuality" it is when my neighbor's dog tries to do my leg. If it's a male dog on a man's leg is the dog homosexual? But a male dog on a woman's leg is heterosexual?...

It's pointless to discuss these types of things with the homosexual lobby. They have no argument other than emotion.

90 posted on 12/13/2004 11:24:39 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Servant of the 9; EdReform; scripter
about half of the variability is inherited.

And if that BS were true, you'd see consistent findings from the dozens of MZ "twins-studies". But you don't, you see data range from 0% to the high 70's% concordance rates.

If the twins studies prove anything it's that the practice of perversion in NOT inherited, if it were the "studies" could be replicated.

91 posted on 12/13/2004 11:24:50 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: demoRat watcher

Oh, and calling them narcistic is not a judgment. I just mean it as a natural result of being turned on by bodies which look like your own.


93 posted on 12/13/2004 11:25:22 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Actually I tend to think the benefits of being heterosexual occur here on earth. I don't think God really cares that much about our sex lives, but I do think that a secure and stable marriage and children are two of lifes greatest joys and if you are homosexual chances are you won't have either. It's also a very unhealthy lifestyle both emotionally and physically. Men and women are naturally complimentary to each other. Men and men or women and women are not.


94 posted on 12/13/2004 11:26:01 AM PST by elmer fudd
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It really doesn't matter whether there is such a genetic predisposition or not. Homosexuals have free will just like anyone else, and they choose their behavior.


95 posted on 12/13/2004 11:27:18 AM PST by Sloth (Al Franken is a racist.)
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To: IamConservative
1) Makes one wonder about the childhood of Michael Jackson.

I believe that he **did** do a song titled "Beat It." Hmmmmm.....

96 posted on 12/13/2004 11:27:18 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Baynative

Congratulations on your cure and recovery!


97 posted on 12/13/2004 11:31:14 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: calex59

Read post #84. I had pet rabbits. We got females only, so they wouldn't make a zillions of little pet rabbits. They did mount each other. I explain in post #84 why this is not comparable to human homosexuality.


98 posted on 12/13/2004 11:32:45 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

26: I agree. Well stated.


99 posted on 12/13/2004 11:35:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Protagoras

Oh my.

I can only guess what the poster was referring to. Somehow I know her from something. She and Ellen seemed quite the item in People magazine, etc . . .

I now take my own magazines to read in the dentist's waiting room! LOL


100 posted on 12/13/2004 11:38:21 AM PST by cvq3842
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