[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Perhaps you would be so kind to post some links. I've done an awful lot of research on this, and thus far, all the response I can find the Darwinists saying concerning irreducible complexity boils down to "Trust me." IOW, they are making their premise appear as the conclusion.

In any experiment where you are testing for a specific property, you do your durndest to get rid if any impurities that will cause problems with your conclusions. When trying to remove ID from the evolutionary picture, Darwinists must remove all impurities also. This is simple logic. If someone bases their conclusion on the premise that ID is not a part of evolution, then they should be able to show this by removing all ID producing impurities.

Unfortunately, merely by using an ID tool, an impurity is introduced in experimentation which negates any conclusions that ID could not be a part of the evolutionary scheme. For, after all, if we as finite humans can obtain a certain result using our limited toolset, what makes us think that a much more intelligent agent could not do the same on a far vaster scale?

To deny the possibility of ID in the face of such insuperable difficulties arrogates the omniscience for humans that is generally reserved an infinite G-d.

[orionblamblam]

> Perhaps you would be so kind to post some links.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html
http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/design2/article.html

"Skeptic" magazine has tackled the issue several times.

> When trying to remove ID from the evolutionary picture, Darwinists must remove all impurities also.

Observe the world. Evolution can be seen in the fossil record. No "ID" needed.

> For, after all, if we as finite humans can obtain a certain result using our limited toolset, what makes us think that a much more intelligent agent could not do the same on a far vaster scale?

Uh-huh. Well, this highly hypothetical Intelligent Designer left *abundant* evidence of evolution, so much so that the conclusion seems not only obvious, but *pointed* *out*. So, if you think that this IDer is God, and that evolution is a lie... then you are left with the inescapable conclusion that God is a liar. Personally, I'll take the evidence the world presents.