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To: ArGee
Christians are responsible for most of the (working) help that the poor get, helping the sick, visiting those in prison, aiding the widows and the orphans, etc. When hurricanes hit Florida the Christian groups were there before the Red Cross. Christians are active supporters of the military. They run schools. The list of the ways they do good is endless.

Many Christians are good. Many are evil. The same can be said for any faith including Atheism. Good deeds do not excuse evil. Hitler was a Christian, so was Mussolini. They both performed many good deeds for their followers.

Christians as a group have a history of persecuting any who do not believe their dogma. They have given us the most destructive war in American history by their scapegoating of drug addicts, whose actual numbers are so small they are insignificant.

Too many people are living in a bubble these days. They refuse to see what is happening to our freedoms. The constant warfare between the Socialist left and Christian right is tearing this country apart.

I think both sides need to stop this lunacy and put America first.
103 posted on 12/14/2004 10:54:34 AM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: mugs99
The constant warfare between the Socialist left and Christian right is tearing this country apart.

So be it! Do you think for a minute the puppet masters will back off if believers cave? Tyrants will push as far as they are allowed by the unwashed, and no more. You're solution is what?

FGS

108 posted on 12/14/2004 11:10:05 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: mugs99; ArGee

It looks (I could be wrong) as though you are not a believer in God. So I'll explain it carefully.

There is not a culture war because those who believe in God (notice I did not specifically say "Christian") and His moral absolutes, which have been the foundation of this country since its inception, are forcing their views on others.

There is a culture war because atheists/secularists/homosexualists/leftist/socialists (as currently personified by the Democratic Party) have been assaulting the tenets, practices, beliefs, moral standards and meaning/purpose of the legal system of this country (and other countries) for several generations.

Another point: Hitler was not a Christian. Hitler. Wasn't. A. Christian.

If Mussolini was one (I don't know much about him), he obviously wasn't an observant or sincere one, therefore he was a phony. Doesn't count.

Strawman about Christians and WOD. Merely silly.

The history of Christians persecuting others pales into insignificance when compared to Muslims persecuting others and Stalinists and all varieties of Communists persecuting others.


115 posted on 12/14/2004 11:28:49 AM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: mugs99
Christians as a group have a history of persecuting any who do not believe their dogma.

Actually, there is a very short history of Christians committing persecution and a very long history of Christians being subjected to it.

The constant warfare between the Socialist left and Christian right is tearing this country apart.

Not to pick at nits, but started by which side?

It's OK if you believe it doesn't really matter where the chips fall, but I disagree.

Shalom.

124 posted on 12/14/2004 1:35:22 PM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: mugs99
Hitler was a Christian

No, he wasn't. He was a worshipper of Thor. He found most of the Bible "entirely too Jewish," and banned certain scriptures' being taught is the state-sanctioned "church," known as "die deutsche Kirche." Many a priest or minister was killed for speaking out against the use of pagan rituals at military funerals - which they were obliged to attend. At least that's what I learned studying church history at a state university in Germany. I don't mean to brag. I just want you to know that you are mistaken on an important point.

134 posted on 12/14/2004 2:05:46 PM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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