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To: Modernman
I just realized something. In the State of Michigan, the laws are such that one can, if one is not otherwise disqualified from firearms ownership, legally keep a firearm in any condition - assembled, disassembled, loaded, unloaded, cased, lying on the table, whatever, in one's home or place of residence.

The same is not true of a vehicle. There are very specific requirements to keep a firearm in one's vehicle in Michigan. (It must be unloaded, encased, and locked in the trunk or otherwise inaccessible or remote from the driver and occupants, unless it is a handgun AND there is a valid Concealed Pistols License holder in the vehicle or is the owner of the vehicle and it is unoccupied.)

Clearly, the inside of a vehicle is not "private property" in the same way that the inside of a home is.

633 posted on 12/14/2004 6:34:56 PM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Chemist_Geek

The homeowner is not allowed to fix his own toilet, or hot water heater in some jurisdictions. "His" home must conform to their specs. Same goes for the employer's premises.


634 posted on 12/14/2004 6:54:31 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Chemist_Geek
Modernman wrote:
In contract law, you can agree to anything that is not otherwise forbidden under local, state or federal law.






The Law of the Land says that the peoples RKBA's "shall not be infringed".

Thus, a contract that infringes on that right is forbidden.
358 jones







There are very specific requirements to keep a firearm in one's vehicle in Michigan.
(It must be unloaded, encased, and locked in the trunk or otherwise inaccessible or remote from the driver and occupants, unless it is a handgun AND there is a valid Concealed Pistols License holder in the vehicle or is the owner of the vehicle and it is unoccupied.)

Clearly, the inside of a vehicle is not "private property" in the same way that the inside of a home is.
633 Chemist_Geek








Clearly, the State of Michigan is infringing on peoples RKBA's within vehicles, which are their 'private property' under any sense of the words.
636 posted on 12/14/2004 7:37:13 PM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: Chemist_Geek
Clearly, the inside of a vehicle is not "private property" in the same way that the inside of a home is.

Courts have said the same thing in numerous cases. The police can search your car without a warrant in many more circumstances than they can search your house without a warrant, for example.

654 posted on 12/15/2004 7:13:21 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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